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Section One: Table Notes
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(Note: these notes were taken by me, Ellen at the table and have NOT been approved or corrected by the speakers. Reader beware of inevitable misunderstandings and misrepresentations. E.B.)
Table Notes 8.16.06
Mary Biehn, Roy Euvrard, David Rosenberg, Janet Kalven, Alan Scheidt, Marvin Kraus, Gerry Kraus, Clark Echols, Daisy Quarm, Shari Able, Q. Benedikt, Ellen Bierhorst, Bill Messer, Mira Rodwan, Neil Anderson, Mr. G.
Welcome Clark!
Announcements at the Table
Clark: A Day for Men, Aug 26, Sat. At Mt. Airy, sponsored by The Cincinnati Men's Gathering. Second Annual. Not specifically Christian. Major influence, "the Mankind Project", an international project for authentic masculinity. They also have "the New Warrior Program." Drumming. Dancing. Rites of passage. Against machismo, wife beating, war at any cost, gangs. Is not about religion or sexual orientation or philosophy. About being better husbands, fathers, friends. (see below under Announcements section)
ALAN: I interviewed Jake Heggie, composer of opera "Dead Man Walking", is at the Grandin Festival at CCM. Vocal chamber music. Free concert. http://grandinfestival.com
This Sunday at 7, Heggie is doing his coached songs. Go early , it will be packed. My piece will be in the current CityBeat.
Roy I heard on the radio coming over here that the group against the gay rights ordinance has withdrawn their petition because they did not have enough valid signatures on the petition to get it on the ballot. Many signatures were forged.
Marvin Last night Scott Simon was a Jos. Beth, book signing. Sat morning NPR story teller, to children. HI s new book, about two teens in Sarajevo. Pretty Birds. He was there as a journalist.
Gerry I read autobiog. Of Barak Obama. Highly recommend. Father from Kenya, mother Midwestern white protestant. …When he finished college did community organizing in Chicago. Dreams from my father
Went to Harvard Law school, head of Law Review, first Black to be that.
Now the jr. Senator from Illinois.
Alan movie recommendation. I am a life long movie nut. Five fine films were nom. For academy award this year as best picture. Crash is an amazing film, see it! It won best picture. Uses a small section of Los Angeles as a microcosm of the country. Thirty different characters have a relationship to a car crash… people who touch each others lives without even knowing it. About prejudice, stereotypes, expectations, your suppositions a bout people. Blacks, whites, Latinos, Iranians, etc.
You have to rent it on DVD.
David Tonight a group I don't know about is talking about peace in Lebanon. Claims to be inclusive. Rohs St. Café at 7:30.
The Lebanese owner of Andy's café in Gilbert Ave (near the Ass. for Blind ) was stranded for a time this summer in Lebanon. Was back visiting. Hitched a ride through Syria… he got back. Has teamed with Abbie Ingber at Hillel to talk about relief efforts. I will find out about it. If you c annot wait to donate, call Hillel. Relief for both sides of the conflict.
Bill On the p hone today with Midwest "People for the American Way", they told me that the homophobia initiative petition was not successful. Folks are watching Cincinnati. (see letter sent by Mara Helmuth in Articles section below. Ellen).
The event I was going to do on Peace Day is not going to happen at the Freedom Center. I believe they got cold feet for political reasons. "How Should a Patriot Act", War and peace and the censorial impulse. Show "the Blinding Flash of the Obvious", about the repeal of Article 12 in Cincinnati. Other documentary films as well. The local ACLU sent me an email refusing to participate. There is no local ACLU chapter, have not been for 7 years.
Probably will be at Art Museum, on Sept 23 or 24.
Ellen Women's Day of Prayer Sept 9. Interfaith. Church of our Savior. Also
Sander Vinks will come Wed (in two weeks) to talk for the Hospital Levy. (See below under Announcements)
David A Peter Block event at Unity Friday 9 am to 11 am. Now probably too late to sign up. Has been putting on workshops for couple years now on civic engagement. Brings diverse strangers together, you get to know each other well, quickly. James McKnight will be speaking. Free. See http://asmallgroup.net/
TOPICS
Shari: Is there a civil war in Iraq?
Marvin I'd like to hear how people feel about Lebanon, Israel, Hezbollah, what is happening, what is going to happen. We keep getting different spins. I care about how people here feel about what the heck is going on.
Alan Military recruiters are having a hard time meeting their quotas and are starting to fudge re. who they are taking. Looking the other way when it comes to criminal BACK ground. Since the "don't ask don't tell" 11,000 gay service people have been kicked out. Lots of translators. A large proportion of those were outted by others.
David (read some paragraphs f rom Alternatives to Economic Globalization, on an ecological city in Brazil. City of Curitiba.
Freiberg in Germany.
Curitibea, size of Houston. Downtown made pedestrian only flowers. Low income houses built near jobs. Busses, bus lanes, highly efficient public transport. 100 miles of well designed bike paths. No traffic problems; clean air; saves 7 million gal fuel per year. Hundreds of t housands of trees planted. Greenspace 581 sq feet per person!
Recruited non polluting industries. Required to dispose of their own waste. Everything is recycled. 3xweekly curbside recycling pick up. Reduction of landfill use. More sustainable than any city in the world.
Marvin How was it financed
David it doesn't say. Excerpted from Natural Capitalism.
Roy they sort the recyclables at the source.
Bill Americans don't sort responsibly.
Q They really don't use the glass, there is no use for that.
Gerry we were two weeks at Booth Bay Harbor. They don't collect curbside, but you can take to a recycling center and they sort all kinds of paper, different kinds of newspaper, etc.
Q my parents live there and they have to pay by the garbage can for waste collection, so there is an incentive to recycle.
It is more remarkable that this city in Brazil is doing all th is sustainable practice because they don't have the same drivers (governmental regulations, costs for landfill.)
… Rumpke has exceeded its design limit by ten times because new landfills cannot be approved in the area. … It is really expensive to build a landfill. In Forest park waste collection is privatized. Price to me is about $`13 / month. Used to be about $2.
Used to be competitors for rumpke landfill, but now it is a monopoly.
David When I read this I started to imagine closing off downtown Cinti. Or central Clifton to auto traffic, create pedestrian friendly living space. We are s till designing our infrastructure here around the automobile.
We have the chamber of commerce lobbying against the Office of Environmental Management because they don't understand the costs…
Marvin City Council voted 5 to 4 to include Office of
For: Tarbell, Cole, Crowley, Cranley, Thomas
Against: Ghiz, Monzel, Bortz, Burding.
Daisy I think the Salon should take note of key votes in city Council and educate voters … (What a super idea! Ellen. Will someone collect this information?)
Bill the city manager citizens advisory committee meets monthly. Wednesday in Corryville. Anyone can be nominated. I am a member.
Mira Chris Smitherman's editorials in the Northside paper, about the Banks project not b eing diverse. Chris continues to reveal a lot of behind the scenes.
THE ISRAEL/LEBANON THING
(Going around the table with the Talking Stick)
Mr. G. for many years I've struggled with notion if a population produces, inadvertently or not, a risk to another group, and the other group has to come down … Populations are somewhat responsible for what comes out of them. On the other hand, I don't feel responsible for Bush. …
Q I feel it necessary to go beyond the whole origin of this conflict, the racial injustice, response to it, and say the biggest victory the US ever had was the Marshal Plan. Real question now is how the peace is won and who … today NYTimes article about Hezbollah putting tremendous money from Iran into rebuilding Lebanon. The real question is How you go about winning the peace.
Shari one thing interesting is the Israelis are mad at their government because they didn't win this conflict. Didn't send enough ground troops. Because the war is over for the moment Israelis are mad because there wasn't a clear win. Ground troops were not sent in immediately. … Seems to me the Israelis were thinking of the Six Day War, which was won with air power, but this isn't like that. Guerilla war requires men on the ground. The Israelis were trying to spare the young Israeli soldiers.
We have to find a way not to kill our young men and women. Negotiate with the thought that it is Your son or daughter who will be killed.
Daisy I think Israel miscalculated. Thought they would win, … underestimated civilian casualties, underest. The reaction of the world. I am more concerned about US, who stood by for so long. Who are the winners? Loosers? Big losers include US, m ake us look so hypocritical. We are willing to have thousands of civilians killed.
Guerilla wars are different than six day war. But it is not just about the immediate win and loss of t his particular war; but who is winning and losing with young Muslims a round the world. Moderates in Lebanon are being pushed to the extreme position. … Even if you win a battle , if you mobilize the people against you, you loose.
Mira The thing that would help is for people of good will, leaders, … to support a more powerful UN, World Court, and Kyoto Treaty type World Charter to help have alternatives to war. We don't have any program to attract youth to good works instead of destructive, violent approaches. The youth in France, immigrants, marginalized, and the youth here in this city … will be violent if they don't have alternatives.
Gerry Israel, when it went to war, had two objectives: remove Hezbollah from S. Lebanon; to get the kidnapped soldiers. Achieved neither. So the Israeli people are upset. From the point of view of Hezbollah, the fact that they stayed there, was a victory for them. The Muslims, the Hez. Have gained much. In the eyes of the world they are the good guys, and the US and Israel are the bad guys.
My son was in Is. Two weeks b efore the conflict started. Said there were no Ketusha rockets sent to Israel before the conflict. Suggest you read today's edition of the Israeli paper HaAretz online. Interview with Diane Rheem this morning, said it was in that paper, information you can't get in the news here.
As long as Israel does not face the fact they have to live w ith Arab neighbors… In Israel it is obvious which communities are Arab Israelis because they are treated second class.
Marvin thank you for all your responses.
If the rocket attacks on Israel have now s topped, that's a good th ing. If Israeli troops are leaving Lebanon and being replaced by Lebanese troops, that is a good thing. We still have to deal with restoration of Lebanon's infrastructure destroyed. So sad, that destruction.
… all parties have to talk to each other.
Mike Wallace interviewed the pres. Of Iran. He can't get a response from Bush; sent him a letter. Bush didn't respond. Have to Talk.
Alan three weeks a go, my point of view has not changed. Yesterday am on NPR I heard Bush say "Well it was (Hezbollah's) fault." … No one has ever won.
Many years ago in a play, "this is an ancient form of madness." I have come to understand that line. I am an advocate of the twelve step process. I think the Middle East desperately needs to be twelfth stepped.
War, always will be, until somebody chooses not to respond to aggression. I want to scream, "You all have to live here." To the middle easterners. …I don't care about reasons, excuses, no good no bad guys. Just guys. Nobody is right. Until this way of looking at it is adopted, the war will not stop. It is madness.
Janet One thing, the holocaust took place in Germany. Why should the Palestinians have to pay for it? Only thing you can hope for is to stop the violence. …when two little kids fight, "he started it!"
David I read a review of "Prairie home companion movie" by Rabbi Arthur Waskow. He said that movie was a tragedy; about the death of America. Should serve of a wake up call. Relates to my analysis of the mid east problem. I th ink the nations of the world, developed nations, are there to extract oil. That's where the hypocrisy comes from. Playing footsie with Saudi Arabia … I don't think the US is the biggest villain here, just has done it more, better in recent years than others. Like Wal-Mart is not the villain, they just do the system more than better than others. The logical extension of American capitalism is Wallmartism. By extension, in mid east …
In Lebanon; the failure of the int'l community, esp. the Security Council of UN … Twenty years ago the UN was supposed to do stuff when Israel pulled out of Lebanon. But there was not enough world demand that the UN be successful in that.
… what is really happening is squandering of world's resources to military machines. Letting the peons like Israel and Lebanon fight it out while the powerful nations fuck everything up.
Roy In WWII when Germany invade Russia, the Ukrainians welcomed the Germans as l iberators. Many volunteered for the German army. The Germans never used them. By the end of the war the Ukrainians were fighting th e Germans, because the Germans had treated the Ukrainians as sub human.
When the ottoman empire fell after WWI, France and Eng. Established puppet monarchies in the middle east.
When Israel was established, many middle class Palestinians welcomed Israel as an example of democracy, technology, good government. But over the years, esp. since '6j7, Is. Has treated Pallest. As sub human.
Mary pass
Bill So many times I wanted to jump in and discuss others' discussion….
As a boy I visited Israel twice. Traveled around Is. With Nelson Glueck. I was very impressed. 58, 60. Remembered going down the same road, where it had been barren, now cities. Visited kibbutzim. Saw the pure socialist life. Impressed me. Saw real attempts to create democracy. Also real hope for co existence with Arabs.
In my twenties, later, looked at a map, and asked why couldn't all those states, including Jordan, Syria, Is., all give some land for the Palestinians. Why should only Israel have to give land. I still have that idea. … Reality is that the people involved do see winners and l osers. This recent Hezbollah outbreak was planned for years. They played on the Israel defense force credo that no soldier is l eft behind. They planned it for years. It worked beautifully. The Israelis fell for it. I think there is a winner and it is Hezbollah. Next week will have ten times the membership as last week.
The Lebanese refugee camps in Syria… only women and children. Where were the men? The boys? Signed up with Hezbollah.
Our government is bereft of ideas. … maybe there are people in our gov't who were hoping for this Armageddon.
I was on the internet, people writing in, so many saying , "God is doing this…" 47% of Americans believe literally in the Christian bible. … I am comfortable being an atheist today, h ave been for 25 yrs.
I know oil is a big part of it too…
Have to look carefully at… the division in t he world is not so much between east and west, or Islam and west, it is between Fundamentalism and tolerance.
Damon Lynch, "tolerance is not good enough, we have to go beyond tolerance."
Mr G: Everybody should read the Hezbollah article in the NYTimes today. ( http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/16/world/middleeast/16hezbollah.html?hp?_r=1&oref=slogin )
~ end of Table Notes ~
Hugs to everyone,
Ellen
Section Two: Articles
Contents:
- Mara Helmuth, salonista, forwards Gary Wright’s article on Human Rights Ordinance Victory this week
- Salon Weekly “lurker” Steve Fischer is down on Michael Moore
- Salonista, homeopath Shirley Reischman: Use y our dishwasher; Watch out for fluorescent bulbs.
- Sustainability: a Prophet and a Priest
- Bev Harris, heroine of “Black Box Voting”, watchdoging our national election technology since 2000, has “Citizens’ tool kit”
From: Gary Wright <Gary@CitizensToRestoreFairness.org>
Date: August 16, 2006 11:40:24 AM EDT
To: crf@citizenstorestorefairness.org
Subject: [Crf] Urgent News for Our Supporters: We Won!
Yesterday evening, our anti-gay opponents conceded that because they had submitted fraudulent signatures, a referendum on adding protections for LGBT people would not be on the ballot this November.
This means that as of today, GLBT people are protected from discrimination in the City of Cincinnati for the first time since 1993, marking the third victory for fairness in the city in the past three years. In November 2004, Cincinnati voters clearly said that discrimination was wrong when they repealed Article XII, which was the only anti-gay law of its kind in the country. Then in March 2006, the people's elected representatives on City Council, with Mayor Mallory's full support, voted 8 to 1 to restore protection from discrimination to our laws. Yesterday's admission of defeat by the Sharonville-based group CCV marks the third victory. We have finally won back for our city the dignity and reputation for fairness that we lost in 1993.
As with so much that we do, yesterday's victory in our petition challenge was led by a volunteer, Jennifer Branch, of the law firm Gerhardstein, Branch & Laufman. Jennifer donated countless hours to this challenge. For those of you who do not know, Gerhardstein, Branch & Laufman has been at the forefront of every rights victory in town, including the Collaborative Agreement, and has fought tirelessly for the gay and transgender community since 1992.
We also won because we were prepared to fight aggressively at the polls, and had already talked to thousands of voters beginning in May of this year. Under the leadership of our campaign manager Sarah Reece, and with the especially prominent support of the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force, we were again doing the work that we know leads to permanent change: talking openly and honestly with voters about the reality of gay and transgender people's lives.
While we can justly celebrate victory, our opponents seem to be still trying to cover up the many irregularities - or worse - that we found with their petitions. Over 1000 times, signatures were either forged or the voter's address was tampered with by someone other than the voter. They seem to be attempting to prevent people from realizing the full extent of these problems by scape-goating a single poorly-paid petition gatherer for their failure. The people in charge of this effort, including Phil Burress and Tom Brinkman, are responsible and must ultimately be held accountable for that.
Please join us on Thursday at our campaign office at 1525 Madison Road from 7 pm to 9 pm to celebrate our victory over injustice and thank our campaign staff for their work. This is a great victory for CRF and for Equality Cincinnati, the group that will continue to lead the fight in Cincinnati for full equality. (I was there briefly on Thursday night... Maybe 60 people... Jubilant mood. Ellen)
A few people coming together to work for justice can become many people, and prevail.
-Gary Wright, Chair
Read the Enquirer story here:
http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060816/NEWS01/608160412/1077/NEWS01
Steve Fischer: a Rhubarb for Michael Moore
From: Ellen Bierhorst [mailto:ellenbierhorst@lloydhouse.com]
Sent: Tue 8/15/2006 5:13 PM
To: Fischer, Stephen
Subject: Michael Moore commentary
I find interesting that you are such a strong supporter of Michael Moore. I have seen two of his films and the message that I have always got out of them is that the main thrust of the film is Michael Moore. I categorize him as a liberal skinhead which is emphases by his wardrobe. I have always been weary of self proclaimed leaders whether on the left or right. Hitler has been described as being on the right he was actual a very socialistic ruler. His socialism was directed at only one type of people those that he chose. Remember that the extremes on either side are not that far apart.
Thanks,
Steve Fischer
(from Ellen) Thanks, Steve, for your comment. May I print it in the weekly? Ellen
(From Steve) Sure I would love to hear what others think of Michael Moore.
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- Salonista, homeopath Shirley Reischman: Use your dishwasher; Watch out for fluorescent bulbs.
I feel a need to comment on the steps some people are taking to help with global warming. When I lived in California, since water had to be imported from three states away, water conservation was always an issue. We were encouraged to use our dishwashers rather than wash by hand because of the tremendous water savings. To pre-rinse, wash and then rinse the soap from a dinner for four takes up to 25 gallons of water to wash by hand. At the time, we were told that a dishwasher used less than five gallons. Some of the current energy efficient units use less than three gallons. Every gallon of water used has to go through a water plant which uses chemicals and electricity to clean the water and the water has to be filtered again after use before going back into the river. This also uses energy and chemicals. The chemicals take energy to produce and to ship.
The second issue is with fluorescent lights. It’s been known for a long time that office workers working under fluorescent lights have a higher rate of cataracts than people who work under incandescent lighting. The mechanism for that is only now becoming known. Fluorescent lighting ages the cells in the eyes at a faster rate then incandescent lighting. This would indicate to me that other age related eye problems which can cause blindness, such as macular degeneration and glaucoma, would also be present at an earlier age and in greater degree from the use of fluorescent lighting. Not only is blindness a difficult situation for the individual, but it also takes societal resources to deal with the medical needs of people with these conditions. I don’t consider it a good tradeoff.
Yours,
Shirley Reischman
(I have a terrible reaction to fluorescent tube lights... They m ake me stupid. After 20 minutes in the grocery store I lose my marbles. Barbara Brennan, energy healer and author, says it is because the flickering entrains the nervous system to pulse at a rate not o ptimum for it. Somehow, I don’t have the same response to the compact fluorescent bulbs. They seem ok for me. But... That leaves eye pathology. A grave matter. Ellen)
sustainability: a Prophet and a Priest
http://www.grist.org/comments/soapbox/2006/08/15/shaw/
The Priest and the Prophet
Can industrial civilization really become sustainable? Should it?
By Charles Shaw
15 Aug 2006
To be, or not to be -- that is the age-old question, and civilization today faces its own dire version of it. As the negative social and ecological effects of 150 years of industrialization are becoming impossible to ignore, people are asking whether we can maintain our standards of living. But very few are asking if we should.
Dark days or bright opportunities?
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There are, however, two contemporary thinkers for whom this question is primal: William McDonough, green architect and designer, and Derrick Jensen, neo-tribal environmentalist and philosopher. They epitomize the vanguard of the new green zeitgeist. They are the elemental planners of a future sustainable society.
Both visionaries are mythically Shakespearean in the quirk, richness, and lyrical beauty of their respective evangelizing characters. But one is Establishment, the other Counterculture. One wears a bow tie, the other wears beads. One comes from the corporate aristocracy, educated at Dartmouth and Yale; the other from working-class Spokane and the Colorado School of Mines. One founded three revolutionary companies; the other keeps the company of revolutionaries.
One was named Time Magazine's "Hero of the Planet" and is the only recipient of the Presidential Award for Sustainable Development. The other lists more modest encomiums, but to many in the movement, he is every bit as much a hero.
Though these two men share a common belief -- that industrial civilization, with its outrageous fortune, is killing the planet, plunging all life into a veritable sea of troubles -- they represent two sides of the most important question of our age: Is civilization worth saving?
McDonough says "yes," and is prepared to suffer the slings and arrows required to make it work. Jensen says "no," and is prepared, in a manner of speaking, to take up arms and end the whole experiment.
The Priest
William McDonough.
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The priest, by his very nature, derives his faith from pre-existing dogma, which he believes is the One True Way. In the case of William McDonough, the dogma is that technology and human ingenuity can solve virtually any crisis.
Some of McDonough's more prominent projects include the Lewis Center at Oberlin College, a building that was designed to clean its own wastewater and produce more energy than it consumes, and the famed Herman Miller Furniture factory in Michigan, which boosted productivity so much that the building paid for itself. He is co-creator of the design imprints GreenBlue and MBDC, which have become the harbingers of what McDonough calls "the next industrial revolution." Instead of an extractive, polluting, single-use "cradle to grave" system, McDonough promises everlasting economic life through his renewable Cradle to Cradle system.
McDonough sees civilization as a good thing, something worth saving, and chalks up our current environmental crisis to a kind of growing-pain mentality. He explains that our industrial childhood -- the Industrial Revolution -- was predicated on the cradle-to-grave lifecycle. Realizing the limits of this system, and its inherent social and environmental toxicity, he endeavored to create an industrial system that mimics the environment, which takes the principles of nature and applies them to design, and in many respects, integrates the built environment with the surrounding ecosystem.
He has become an archetype for the burgeoning field of "sustainable development," a traveling missionary proselytizing for the church of technology, bearing the gospel of "zero-impact, carbon neutral, closed-loop smart growth" -- a fancy way of saying that he designs buildings that are "like trees" and cities that are "like forests." He presides over the marriage of technology and ecology, and sends the two off with the church's blessing to be fruitful and multiply, bearing living, breathing structures that take care of themselves.
Imagine a building, enmeshed in the landscape, that harvests the energy of the sun, sequesters carbon and makes oxygen. Imagine on-site wetlands and botanical gardens recovering nutrients from circulating water. Fresh air, flowering plants, and daylight everywhere. Beauty and comfort for every inhabitant. A roof covered in soil and sedum to absorb the falling rain. Birds nesting and feeding in the building's verdant footprint. In short, a life-support system in harmony with energy flows, human souls, and other living things.
On the surface, his creed seems noble. But is it even possible?
Certainly on an individual-building scale. But his ultimate goal for civilization is not limited simply to a "paradigm shift" in design. He aspires to a more utopian ideal, totally rethinking how we live and work and prosper.
In McDonough's world, there would be no "trade secrets," which allow corporations to legally pollute in the name of profit. His world is a transparent one, where the Constitution still reigns, but "freedom" is not reinterpreted as the right to pollute, endanger, or destroy -- and our intentions are not measured by what is not against the law.
"Imagine an economy ... that purifies air, land, and water ...!" GreenBlue's website boldly claims. If only we'd listen to him, the growing crowd of acolytes wails, we'd have a chance of saving the planet and ourselves! We can have it all!
Though this priest is preaching hope and harmony, a prophet has appeared who is making people distinctly uncomfortable. He is preaching that the church of sustainability has gone astray by placing its faith in technology and valuing human life above all others. He believes the priests have become corrupt, and has nailed his theses to the door.
The Prophet
His prophesy is of a slightly more acerbic and apocalyptic nature, the man in the dark robe, staff in hand, barking in the marketplace of ideas, warning of the perils of hubris. He has gone into the wasteland of industrial society, with its dams and pavement and cell-phone towers, and returned to the ecosphere bearing tales of the end of days. But unlike the biblical Armageddon, this apocalypse is entirely human-made. It is what he calls the "culture of death" -- and what we call industrial civilization.
Portrait of Derrick Jensen, part of the Americans Who Tell The Truth collection by artist Robert Shetterly.
Derrick Jensen believes the current "civilization" -- a system of sprawl, consumerism, monoculture, industry, war, empire, and a near-total disregard for non-human life that relies on finite resources and is predicated on unlimited growth -- is, in a word, insane.
It should be noted that McDonough does not, in principle, disagree with this take on civilization's path so far. He says quite clearly, "This cradle to grave flow relies on brute force (including fossil fuels and large amounts of powerful chemicals). It seeks universal design solutions ("one size fits all"), overwhelming and ignoring natural and cultural diversity. And it produces massive amounts of waste -- something that in nature does not even exist."
But whereas McDonough believes all we need is faith in technology to persevere, Jensen believes civilization should be brought down as soon as possible in order to save the planet. So much damage has been done, he says, that it's not a matter of if, but when. The only question becomes, what are you doing to prepare yourself?
The moneychangers in the temple think he's nuts, not to mention bad for business. But when has the voice of truth ever been welcomed with a drink and a snack?
Jensen's two-volume, consciousness-shaping testimony Endgame takes as two of its central premises: civilization, especially industrial civilization, is not and can never be sustainable; and civilization is not redeemable. He believes we will not undergo any sort of voluntary transformation to a sane and sustainable way of living. If we can't get people to stop buying McMansions and SUVs, how on earth are we going to teach them to survive when there is no more food?
Moreover, continued development means less access to land, where access to land means access to self-sufficiency, which means access to life. "Land is primal," he says. "Everything else is based upon it, even culture. There cannot be only one culture." Because of this, Jensen claims sustainable development is "an obvious oxymoron," a "synonym for industrialization."
Despite the purportedly radical and fatalistic nature of his thinking, Jensen's analysis might be closer to the truth of our situation than the understandably alluring optimism of McDonough. For all his brilliance, McDonough's dependence on technology might be -- stressing might -- that fatal flaw, or at best, the myopia that keeps us spinning our wheels trying to save a system that ain't no good for us.
This thoroughly depressing idea may explain why, throughout history, the prophets were killed in unspeakable manners for being heretical, while the priests continued to promise a better life for the adherents, even in the face of destitution.
One thing is clear: ideologically speaking, neither would exist without the other. In this case, the natural but unwitting binary system between McDonough and Jensen serves to push the issue of sustainability further than before, folding space, continually challenging the very notions upon which our society rests, and forging ideas for a new, perhaps even better future for life on this planet.
Regardless of the rationality of our need for change, it won't be easy, or pleasant, and it will probably end up looking a lot different than the way things are now. Revolutions tend to do that.
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Charles Shaw (author of this essay) is a green activist and a regular contributor to Alternet, Guerrilla News Network, Scoop, In These Times, and The Next American City. He is editor in chief of Conscious Choice.
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Bev Harris, heroine of “Black Box Voting”, watchdoging our national election technology since 2000, has “Citizens’ tool kit”
Full citizen's tool kit is now available in a single document - http://www.blackboxvoting.org/toolkit.pdf
Citizens are concerned. They want to know what they can do. Here's your chance to get started on meaningful elections reform action that will make a real difference in November.
The above link contains all 20 stand-alone modules in one consolidated document
(make sure you have Adobe Acrobat installed to read the pdf files. You can download it for free at http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep2.html )
SIMPLE, EFFECTIVE INSTRUCTIONS TO TAKE BACK YOUR ELECTIONS:
1. Pick any module.
2. Choose any action within the module.
3. Then just follow through on it.
4. Every action in the Tool Kit starts another pebble rolling down the hill.
NEW MODULE IS UP: Pertains to fundraising for local elections reform people: ACTIONS FOR HIGH NET WORTH INDIVIDUALS
http://www.blackboxvoting.org/toolkit-affluent.pdf
NEW MODULE IS UP: About ACTIVATING CELEBRITIES in the election oversight issue:
http://www.blackboxvoting.org/toolkit-celebrities.pdf
Candidates in three states have already notified us that they are already making use of the module to help CANDIDATES protect their own elections (The toolkit just went up a few days ago!):
http://www.blackboxvoting.org/toolkit-candidates.pdf
THIS TOOL KIT IS A DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE FOR CITIZENS
It's time for you to recognize your own power.
You don't need us.
You don't have to find someone to follow.
When you use these tools things will happen.
Pick any module. Pick a single action in it. See it to its completion. You've just opened the door to an unexpected evolution of citizenship, the likes of which have not been seen for a long, long time.
"Governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed." – Declaration of Independence
You may notice that the order of the Citizen's Tool Kit modules has changed. Select actions from any of the following, depending on your interests and skill sets:
MOBILIZATION MODULES
Module 1: Have a House Party
Module 2: Organize a Town Meeting
Module 3: Give a Speech to a Group
CREATIVE & SPECIALTY MODULES
Module 4: Be the Media
Module 5: Adopt a Public Official
Module 6: Check Out the Money Trail: Who's Getting Paid?
Module 7: Find Out If Officials Following the Rules
HARD CORE EVIDENCE MODULES
Module 8: Get Public Records and Freedom of Information Documents
Module 9: Adopt Part of an Election: Watch the System Testing
Module 10: Adopt Part of an Election: Watch Voter Registration Lists
Module 11: Adopt Part of an Election: Become a Poll Worker or Elections Judge
Module 12: Adopt Part of an Election: Monitor the Voting
Module 13: Adopt Part of an Election: Monitor the Counting
Module 14: Adopt Part of an Election: Watch the Chain of Custody
Module 15: Adopt Part of an Election: Audit for Accuracy
Module 16: Legal Actions
'PLAN B' MODULE
Module 17: Count the Votes Yourself
MODULES FOR CANDIDATES, CELEBRITIES, AND WEALTHY CITIZENS
Module 18: Candidates: How to Protect Your Election
Module 19: For Famous Voices (Action ideas for Celebrities)
Module 20: Actions for High Net Worth Individuals
* * * * *
Be part of the solution: Please sign up for the NATIONAL HAND COUNT REGISTRY: http://www.bbvforums.org/cgi-bin/forums/board-profile.cgi?action=register
Black Box Voting is a nonprofit, nonpartisan 501c(3) elections watchdog group supported entirely by citizen donations. We refuse funds from any vendor or vested interest.
To support Black Box Voting: click to http://www.blackboxvoting.org/donate.html or send to:
Black Box Voting
330 SW 43rd St Suite K
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Please plan to participate this fall to restore control of elections to the citizenry. Thank you for your stewardship of our republic.
Section Three: Announcements
Lloyd House Spaces Available
@ THIRD FLOOR TWO ROOM + BATH SUITE: furnished with beautiful teak bedroom set and two dhurri rugs. Share third floor kitchen, share basement laundry. Off street parking. High speed wireless internet. Fabulous public areas including: living/music room, dining room seats 14, spacious veranda, zendo meditation/movement hall, basement weight and work out room, sauna etc. $440/month housing expenses contribution. Call Ellen now: 513 221 1289
@ Second floor bedroom, gas fireplace, three large windows (2 East, one South), share huge b athroom with laundry, shared kitchen on third floor.
Other Perqs: off street parking, free laundry, high speed internet, living room with piano, TV, DVD, VCR, community iMac Computer. Dining room seats 16+. Veranda off dining room with Hatteras swing, furniture. Easy access to (Monday...soon to be Wednesday) night salon pot luck, Saturday morning Dharma Study group, Sat. evening drumming circle, and ....
The Lloyd House is a stimulating, friendly, multi-cultural environment. Good vibes are required, as is a rock solid financial responsibility. Housemates can be as private or as friendly as they wish. Know anyone who might like to explore this? No undergraduates, no pets, no smoking. Prefer someone who would be interested in participating in the Salon and/or other activities here. $400. contribution to house expenses. Call Ellen: 221 1289
Salonista Paul Saas, musician, performer, friend sends his gig:
Do ya need a Swealter Shelter? Of course ya do!
C'mon over to Parker's Blue Ash Grill this Sat.(8/19) for a coooool beverage and maybe dinner too.
under_score will be playing Jazz in the Grill, on your left when you come through the door. The tunes start at 7:00pm, kids are welcome and no cover.
Parker's is at the corner of Reed Hartman and Cooper Rd., just north of Regan-Cross County.
Bring a friend and bring your appitite!
Paul
(Encouraged by Neil Schapera and others’ enthusiasm for Toby Christensen, and carried by my love of drumming, I attended the session last night, Friday 8/18 at the Church of the New Jerusalem in Glendale--Clark Echols’ church-- and had a knock out experience. Toby is trained in the way of the West African Dagura (sp?) people by Maladoma Some and his wife (didn’t get her name). Same way my friend Dr. Susan Crew has studied. Maladoma gave a rousing keynote at the Earth Spirit Rising conference last summer at X.U. So Toby is an extremely personable scandanavian American man, an a whale of a drummer. I had a healing focused on my life change issues...leaving Cinti in ‘09, selling m y amazing Lloyd House... changing f rom psychologist to Alexander Teacher in ‘09... It was a Wow! when he stood over me drumming with the shaft of the drum pointed right at m y heart. I am going with the idea that I received a prodound healing and the pathways have been o pened for me into the new phase of my life. ellen)
Location Change for the "Community Healing Circle"
with Toby Christensen
NEW LOCATION!!!
Church of the New Jerusalem
845 Congress Ave
Glendale, OH 45246
Due to enthusiastic response, we have moved to a larger space for this first Community Healing Circle.
Directions to: "Church of The New Jerusalem:"
From Points North:
1. I-75 South: Sharon Rd exit. Drive west on Sharon Rd, toward Glendale.
2. Drive through Glendale. Turn left onto Congress Rd (Grand Finale restaurant on Left corner)
3. Drive .2 miles. End at Church of the New Jerusalem (on the right): 845 Congress Ave, Cincinnati, OH 45246
From Points South:
1. I-75 North: Glendale -Milford Rd exit: East toward Woodlawn.
2. Turn Right onto Rte4/Springfield Pike.
3. Bear Right at fork in front of "Goodwill" onto Congress (Rte. 747)
4. End at 845 Congress Ave on the Left: "Church of the New Jerusalem"
From Tri-County Mall:
1. Drive South on Rte.747 about 1 mile, into Glendale. (747 changes into Congress in Glendale). The church is .2 miles past Sharon Rd on the right/west side of Congress.
"COMMUNITY HEALING CIRCLE"
An Invitation...Wed, August 23,2006
With Toby Christensen
In June, 2006, Toby led a workshop here in Cincinnati on "Community Drum Healing." It was a magical and empowering day for all who attended and at the end, the group asked Toby to guide them in creating a "Community Healing Circle" here in Cincinnati. This is the first gathering of a monthly circle in which drummers and healing practitioners come together and offer healing treatments with no fee.
This is an amazing opportunity. Cincinnati is a wellspring of gifted healing practitioners. This is an opportunity to combine our gifts and work together. This is an opportunity to unite and strengthen our community, experience the harmony and power of shared intention, and bring the gift of healing to ourselves and each other.
Toby is offering to teach us what he knows. He shares his knowledge from a place of heart and wisdom. He is offering to help us empower ourselves individually and as a community. Vivien and Neil Schapera have graciously and generously offered FourWinds Academy as a space to gather. As Al Gore reminds us, "When you pray, move your feet." (African Proverb). Every participant is offering to step into leadership by bringing their passion for healing into service. Every recipient is offering to step into a place of strength and courage as they ask for support from the community in shifting an aspect of their lives that no longer serves them. This is an open invitation to relearn an ancient, original way of being in community that we, in our culture, don't readily have access to.
All healing practitioners and all those who wish to receive community healing must register in advance. Practitioners who participated in Toby’s “Community Healing” workshop will be the administers of healing energies during this first Circle. Practitioners new to the Circle, who did not attend the June workshop will be asked to participate by holding a healing presence as a spiritual community during this first circle gathering.
To register as a practitioner or to sign up to receive community healing contact:
Barbara Schacht
(513) 225-5788
barbara@healingdrummer.com <mailto:barbara@healingdrummer.com>
Toby's website: http://www.healingdrummer.com
A Day
For
Men
Saturday, August 26
9 to 4
Acquire tools for living powerfully and responsibly, with honor and
integrity
Come join with fellow travelers for a chance to:
•communicate your passions and goals
•to be blessed and challenged
•to listen to the wisdom that others bring
Multiple presenters will offer a wide variety of material and
experiences that we promise will enrich your life and all your
relationships.
This event is about creating a sense of community and having men
share wisdom about what it takes to live lives of joy, integrity, and
balance. We will spend seven hours teaching, learning, drumming,
laughing, dancing, sharing, and eating heartily.
Our experience of the first Day For Men last year was that this is
not a “wounded man,” personal growth workshop. Men don’t come because
there is anything "wrong" with them. It is a day to be with men and
talk about men, what we struggle with, what we're good at, where
we're challenged, what our gold is and what our shadows are. And it
is accomplished because we put aside any attitude of judgment of men
and their beliefs, social status, wealth, sexual orientation, etc. It
will be a life-affirming and glorious day!
Testimony from the first Day For Men: “Being with all of you men
brings up father hunger in me.” “It couldn't have been anything other
than a great day. I got to spend the whole day with my dad.”
Speakers include: Jimmy Nocon, Bob Wuest, Barry Schlimme, Ed
Gutfreund and Clark Echols
When: Saturday, August 26, 9 AM to 4 PM We will begin and end
promptly. Please arrive in time to park and register.
How Much: $25 to cover our costs. More if you wish to see A Day For
Men thrive! The Cincinnati Men’s Gathering, facilitating this event,
is a new membership organization. Its annual dues are $35. Join CMG
and this event is only $15.
Where: Stone Steps Pavilion in Mount Airy Forest. Go to the Mt Airy
Park entrance at 5083 Colerain Ave,, then follow the signs.
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The Cincinnati Men’s Gathering serves men’s spiritual needs by
equipping and supporting men in becoming authentic males, effective
fathers, connected husbands, supportive friends and genuine in all
their relationships. The CMG promotes men’s spiritual growth and
healing through mutual support, spiritual experiences, expert
training and sharing groups.
The CMG will produce events that bring expert testimony and spiritual
experiences to all the men of the greater Cincinnati area at
reasonable costs. Participants will leave every event with a new tool
to use in their lives, new friends for mutual support, and new hope
for personal and spiritual development.
www.cincinnatimensgathering.org
CONTACT:
Clark Echols
(Clark is our newest salonista; he is the pastor of the Glendale Swedenborgian Church. Very cool guy. ellen.)
(513) 284-1236
You are invited to TriState Womonfest on Saturday 8-26-06
Maple Ridge Lodge Mt. Airy Forest, Cincinnati
Noon – 10:00
Below is information that you about the fest, you can get additional information on our website www.tristatewomonfest.com <http://www.tristatewomonfest.com/> . Our intention is to inform (not irritate), we apologize if you received this message in error. Please pass this message around to your women friends and colleagues.
Performers:
M.C. Brenda Slagle
12:15 Irrational Fear
1:15 Shelley Graff & Friends
2:15 Pale Beneath the Blue
3:15 Jamie Fota
4:15 Laura Connallon
5:15 Just the Band
6:15 The Blue Umbrellas
7:30 Katie Reider
Workshops:
1:00 Mackey McNeill – Cultivating Prosperity – 4 Amazing Tools to Grow Wealth
2:00 Lisa Meeks – Legal Protections for the Non-Traditional Family
3:00 Debra Ooten, PhD – Relationships- Personal & Business
4:00 Dee and Leane – It’s Really about You: Create your own Relationship Inventory
5:00 Shelley Graff – Singing in a Sacred Circle
...
Dykes In The City
H&J Mass Merchandise
Patrica Garry & Francine Haydon – psychic readings
My Three Dogs Gourmet Treats
Food & Drinks:
You are welcome to bring your own food and drinks, but please no grills or glass
containers. TSWF Concessions – soft drinks, water, hamburgers, hot dogs, veggie
burgers and snacks will be available for a suggested monetary donation which will
go toward fest expenses.
We are now scheduling volunteers for the day of the fest. Please
contact us if you can donate 2 hours of your time during the day info@tristatewomonfest.com <mailto:info@tristatewomonfest.com> or 513-545-3535.
Sander Vinks, salonista and friend and high powered medical researcher at Children’s Hospital will be with us on Wednesday 30 August to endorse the Levy for Children’s and University Hospitals. Come learn about it. Ellen
"Of all the forms of inequality,
injustice in health care is the most shocking and inhumane."
–Martin Luther King, Jr.
SpanOhio ( http://www.spanohio.org/) is our branch of the national movement to introduce state by state health insurance programs that would cover all citizens. Yes, Virginia, this is Socialized Medicine, for those who remember the horror stories in the 50’s and 60’s. Just like they have in all those other developed countries where the infant mortality rate is so much less than ours! I love the MLK quote above. That’s the deal. Our current system is unfair, unjust, too too too expensive, and utterly stupid. Consider: the overhead (management costs) of Medicare is a fraction... a SMALL fraction of the overhead costs in our current system what with multiple insurance companies, armies of clerks in doctors’ offices and hoispitals just to cope with them, managed care companies raking off their share, and fat profits for the insurrance companies themselves. Poor people wait until they are critical and then go to the Emergency Room where they are treated at huge public expense, the most costly way to dispense health care. Under the Health Care for All Ohioans Act, the very well-designed legislation proposed by SPANOhio, everyone would get care, it would be far more cost effective, no more fear about qualifying for needed treatment under one’s “plan”, no more jockeying about what provider is “in my plan”, and the tax scheme they have devised is workable, affordable, and a bargain for Oh io. I believe SPAN Ohio has all the signatures they need to force the legislature to attend to the proposed innitiative. Now we are waiting for them to act. If they don’t within a period of months (?) then it goes back to the streets to get even more signatures after wh ich it will be put on the ballot for referendum. Watch for news on this. Ellen..
HIV-STD Myths Facts and Fiction
Thursday
August 31, 2006
7:00 – 9:00 p.m.
Sponsored by: "PROVOCATION" A Current Events Discussion Group at
HOBO BOOKS
4040 Hamilton Ave.
Cincinnati, OH
513.542.2418
Meet Rev. DANIEL M. NEWMAN, PhD, DD, CT
Holistic Health Consultant and Senior Health Educator
– An energetic professional speaker, lecturer, and educator, Dan presents on a variety of topics. Having facilitated hundreds of regional and national workshops, Dan delivers memorable keynote, plenary, and capstone address to audiences ranging from 10 to 10,000
This workshop will include the myths, facts, and fiction behind HIV/STD statistics and transmission prevention education. The workshop includes the importance of combining the abstinence/monogamy education along with transmission prevention education for HIV/AIDS, and STD's.
Learning Objectives:
Examine the younger generations' concepts of sex and sexual activity.
Recommendations for education of family, children, teens, and young adults.
Reflect on the dangers of not having the complete picture of today's youth and their view of sexuality.
Relating and identifying who is at the highest risk for HIV and STD infection.
To register for the evening please stop by Hobo Books on Hamilton Ave in Northside. The event is open to the public with a request of a $5.00 donation at the door but it is not required.
Any youth under the age of 18 MUST be accompanied by a legal guardian, or a legal guardian can register their child at the bookstore with their signature giving their child permission to attend.
There will be visuals of the human anatomy....
Signature of Legal Guardian:
Signature of Witness
(I saw this film at the Peak Oil Conference in ‘04 and it is inspiring. See it! ellen.)
What will rising fuel prices mean to you?
Come watch:
THE POWER OF COMMUNITY
How Cuba Survived Peak Oil.
Presented by PROVOCATION Discussion Group
And HOBO BOOKS
4040 Hamilton Ave (Northside, across street f rom old Crazy Ladies’)
542-2418
THURSDAY Sept 7th, 2006
7pm
At Hobo Books
The Power of Community: How Cuba Survived Peak Oil, documents Cuba’s emergency transition to local organic agriculture, renewable energy, and large-scale mass transit. The transition occurred following the Soviet collapse in 1990, when their massive subsidies of imported oil and food to Cuba were halted.
In this documentary, ordinary Cubans talk about the immediate hardships they faced. Their GDP dropped by more than one third, transportation nearly stopped and food became scarce - the average Cuban lost 20 pounds during the first years of this economic crisis.
The film visits urban gardens and organic farms, explains the relationship between food and fossil fuels, and shows how a society can change from an industrialized, global focus to a local, community-based one. It is a rare view into this island culture, using firsthand reporting that focuses on what Cubans learned about adapting to living with less.
http://www.communitysolution.org/cuba.html
REVIEWS:
Richard Heinberg, author, The Party's Over, Powerdown, and The Oil Depletion Protocol
"Everyone who is concerned about Peak Oil needs to see this film. Cuba survived an energy famine during the 1990s, and how it did so constitutes one of the most important and hopeful stories of the past few decades. It is a story not just of individual achievement, but of the collective mobilization of an entire society to meet an enormous challenge. Lest the point be missed, I will underscore it: this particular challenge – the problem of energy scarcity is one we will all be facing very soon."
The Power of Community: How Cuba Survived Peak Oil
By John N. Cooper
May 5, 2006, 11:15
The Power of Community: How Cuba Survived Peak Oil [2006 Community Service Inc: The Community Solution program, DVD 53 Min, ISBN 0-910420-32-7] is a marvelous film that provides a welcome contrast to the abundance of toxic, depressing predictions for the future in the world of post-Peak Oil. All who have been demoralized by the succession of books foretelling societal disaster post-Peak Oil can take hope and learn from the experience of Cuba following the collapse of the Soviet Union.
(this is the 2nd showing of this important documentary, if you cannot make this screening but are interested in possibly showing it to your group please feel free to contact me: Caelimg@yahoo.com <mailto:Caelimg@yahoo.com> .)
"The biggest mistake in communication is assuming that it has happened." - Unknown
Women’s Day of Prayer
(regional AA leader Mary S. will speak on 12 Step spirituality. Many other presenters.)
Saturday, September 9, 2006, from 10 AM until 3 PM: Third Annual Women's [Intefaith] Day of Prayer (open to men, too) to be held at Church of Our Saviour, 65 Hollister Street in Mt. Auburn on the theme of "Building Our Spiritual Reserves." Free and Open to the Public. Come for an hour or stay all day. Lunch Provided. More information: JBlackburn@fuse.net or 542-7334
Salonista, artist (enameling) Vivian Kline (remember her? always wears flower) sends this show and workshop:
I just tried to cut and paste the whole brochure of this great happening Sept 18 to 23 but it didn't work so will tell you that there are two day enameling workshops before and after a 2 day Conference. The opening of this new building, with a show of many enamels, old and new, will be free on Sept 19 at 7 pm in Bellevue, KY. To find out more go to
http:/www.glass-on-metal.com Hope to see you there..or surprise me and take a workshop! Vivian
MoveOn.org is one of my favorite things in these troubled times.
check this out:
Dear MoveOn member,
MoveOn works for the same reason democracy does: when lots of people work together, they generate great ideas and accomplish great goals. That's why we need your help.
To get direction from our members, we have set up an online forum. There, you can share your ideas and goals for MoveOn and our nation. Comments are read and rated by other members and the best ideas float to the top. These help set MoveOn's course.
Take a few moments today to contribute to the Great Goals forum.
Even if there's nothing on your mind, come read what others are saying and help us find the ideas we should pursue:
http://www.actionforum.com/forum/index.html?forum_id=266
Thanks for strengthening democracy by participating in these important conversations!
Sincerely,
--Eli, Wes, Joan and the Whole MoveOn Team
Join in reading The Decline of US Power by Immanuel Wallerstein at the Lloyd House with Ellen, David Rosenberg, Daisy Quarm, Mike Murphy, and ...? Study his WorldSystem theory. He’s got it all together to understand our world today.
Saturday Afternoons 3:00. Order the book ($7 on Amazon) or just show up at the Lloyd House. Jump in any time.
Buddhist Big Wig coming to Lloyd House in October
Will give weekend workshop/retreat for professional caregivers, Buddhists and non-Bud. alike. Topic: Life, Death and After Death
Speaker, Dr. Nicholas Ribush, M.D. and buddhist monk has been a national leader for 30 years. Linneage: Lama Zopa Rinpiche and Lama Yeshe; Foundation for the Preservation of the Mahayana Tradition (FPMT).
Friday evening $25, Saturday 10 - 5: $50, Sunday 10-4 $50, Entire weekend: $100 (such a deal!). Contact Molly Fitzgerald 513 947 8332
fitzskis@fuse.net.
....mental continuity after death? ... Preparing for death...What h appens during and after death?... How life can benefit from awareness of death.
Ellen Bierhorst Ph.D. is a holistic psychotherapist with over 30 years experience serving individuals and families. Expert, caring, rapid service. Most insurance plans will cover. Call 513 221 1289. Special areas of interest: issues of young adulthood, couple communication, GLBT, trauma recovery using EMDR, clinical hypnosis, parenting skills, alternative lifestyles, addictions (tobacco, alcohol, drugs, overeating), weight loss. What is "holistic"? Ans: body/mind/spirit; open to alternative healing modalities from chiropractic to homeopathy, acupuncture, etc.
Section Four: Books/Magazines/Reviews
Gerry Kraus mentioned at the table that she has been enjoying Barak Obama’s autobiography so much. He is the new senator from Illinois who wowed us with his impassioned speech at the Dem. National convention in 2004. His mother a white woman from the midwest. His father a Kenyan economist. He was the first Black person to be editor of the Harvard Law Review. Quite a guy. Is this our first Black president? I loved this guy. ellen.
The Lloyd House Salon (usually about 15 people) Meets on WEDNESDAYS at 5:45,
EVERY Wednesday, 52 WEEKS/YEAR come hell or high water, as my mother used to say.
We of the Lloyd House Salon gather in a spirit of
respect, sympathy and compassion for one another
in order to exchange ideas for our mutual pleasure and enlightenment.
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Our Salon blog is a promising interactive site: http:lloydhouse.blogspot.com
Also, we have an Interactive Yahoo Salon group, http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LloydHouseSalon
We had 63 members as of 7/1/06. How many do we have now?
For Pot Luck procedures including food suggestions, mission and history visit
http://home.fuse.net/ellenbierhorst/Potluck.html .
You are invited also to visit the Lloyd House website: http://www.lloydhouse.com
> To unsubscribe from the Lloyd House Potluck Salon list, send a REPLY message
> to me and in the SUBJECT line type in "unsub potluck #". In the place of #
> type in the numeral that follows the subject line of my Weekly email. It
> will be 1,2, 3, 4, 5, 6 or 7. This tells me which sub-list your name is on so I can
> delete it. Thanks! ellen bierhorst
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