Cindy Herrick (Clifton’s secret weapon) to present at the Salon Wed. 25 July
On the Clifton Cultural Arts Center
This is a fascinating community effort for Clifton, and a model of activism. Come Meet Cindy! Ellen
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................................................... Section One: Table Notes ............................................................................ (Note: these notes were taken at the table and have NOT been approved or corrected by the speakers. Reader
beware of inevitable misunderstandings and misrepresentations. E.B.)
At the Table on Wednesday 18 July 2007:
Steve Sunderland, Vlasta Molak, Mary Biehn, Helen Spoon, Mary Carol Hopkins, Shari Able, Gerry Kraus, Marvin Kraus, Ellen Bierhorst, Ginger Lee Frank, Chad Benjamin Potter, Janet Kalven, Chris Metzger, (Welcome Helen!)
ANNOUNCEMENTS
Ellen: I went to Denver, arrived on grandson’s third day of life… you can see my first seeing him video at http://oursimonfamily.blogspot.com
Took care of the mothers, then drove home across the plains. Baby is well and lovely in every respect. Jeremy Benjamin. Glad I went. Now quite road weary.
MaryCarol: Singing Party this Saturday at my house in Paddock Hills. (see blurb in maroon Announcements section below)
Marvin for $8.18 you can get M-F, Sun Enquirer for a month. Twice that if you get all 7 days.
(E: why subscribe?)
Ginger: it is the paper of record for our area.
Marvin: does anybody who owns their own property who is over 65 or disabled plus others… you are eligible for the homestead tax exemption in Ohio. Apply for it before Oct 1. $400 reduction on RE tax every year. Get application online from Hamilton Co. Auditor website, or call the Auditor’s office Homestead.
Vlasta My pot luck is Mondays 6:30 to 10 weekly, around hot tub in my back yard in Finneytown. “Sustainable living potluck”, theme: how to live in harmony with earth. Vegan food plus eggs and fish. No dairy. 8987 Cotillion Dr. 45231. 521 9321. DrMolak@gmail.com
Next Monday I will have a UC prof. in sustainable engineering.
Gaia foundation has found a 60,000 ft sq. building in OTR near Findlay Mkt. Off the grid plan.
Mira “Before y ou enlist Campaign” at Peasley Neighborhood Center 513 579 8547.
To counteract the hype of recruitment in our schools by the military, to let young people know all the facts before they enlist.
Steve : …draft of a letter to Chief Roberts about the Supreme Court, you may sign it . (overturned Brown vs. Board of Education; race cannot now be used as a basis for school distribution.
We need a national letter writing campaign to the Supreme Court.
Can send me email: Sundersc@email.uc.edu
Gerry: I received an email from “PSI, postponing sexual involvement”. Contest at resume.com/a better world. Vote once daily for PSI. Has reduced teen pregnancy 15% in our city. Director is my son, Christopher. Vote daily until Aug 10. The leading org. will win $100,000.
Ginger: I spent the day today on OTR, by Main St. International, org. by Julie Fay. We had experts on resurrection of neighborhoods. (see blurb in “Articles” section.)
Steve: we had first College Camp for mentally retarded students entering college; they attended classes with “normal” students. You wouldn’t know the difference. Three days of extraordinary conversations… next week another session. We are doing a film about it. Exciting to be in a place with suspension of labels.
Shari: just completed training for “A Small Group” by Peter Bloch. He has them throughout the year. Community Involvement seminar. We did it on two Tuesday evenings.
Chad Next Wed. at 2 pm at Art Museum I am doing a 30 min. modern dance piece with other dancers. It is part of a children’s program, but everybody welcome.
Then a week from Fri, 27 July, at Nicholas Gallery 23 E Court St. I will be doing a dance duet in the evening between 6 – 10 pm. That’s part of Final Friday all up and down Main st. pus Pendleton Gallery and now Court St.
Mira: Something exciting … janitors will have justice in Cinti. P. 9 in today’s City Beat. I grew up pro-union; … new hop in union movement now. The av. Wage is $6.50 here for janitors; in Pittsburgh after being unionized it is now $11.50. These are people who clean office buildings. Negotiations July 25, 26 with the union. If not successful, there will be a strike.
Steve: The movie Sicko should be discussed. My bro. 69 went into annual physical; asked for a street test; Dr. said, “No predisposing factors, but you may have one if you like.” Had one. Had three clogged arteries; had emergency operation. Are we being discouraged from the preventative tests that can save our lives? If so we need to see the test.
TOPICS
Sicko
Janitors’ Union
Recycling: the city will have a push for recycling in August. Gerry has been on the committee.
SICKO
Ginger his least grandstanding movie. He did not make himself the center of the film. Makes it stronger.
Shari I thought it was most important when the American expat. said, “In France the government is afraid of the people; in the US the people are afraid of the gov’t.” “US people are poor, demoralized and frightened.”
The subtext of the movie is about democracy.
Steve What strikes me deepest, those of us are seniors… Whether we can afford our medications, our dr. care. Or has the health system made it impossible for people to feel confident. 9 million US children have no health insurance at all. 47 US citizens who are uninsured. The only modern country without universal health care. At UC we are tied to a specific plan that is non transportable if y ou leave. My brother was out of the hosp in three days after triple by pass.
We live in fear. We are frightened of anything that smacks of socialized medicine.
Ginger people are afraid of leaving their jobs for health care issues.
Steve
Gerry It reconfirms what we here have been aware of for years. The health care business is not service, it is profit, run by pharmaceuticals… My Dr. Dottie Shaffer says she needs an annual surcharge so that she can practice medicine the way she wants. $240 extra per person. I thought it was very reasonable.
Ginger …in hospitals insured persons pay less than non insured, because of the lawyers the insur. Co.s have.
MaryCarol: What I appreciated about “Sicko”: we all know our health system is a total wreak. Whenever I bring it up people say “Yes, but in France you wait a long time…” The movie shows how it does work in those countries.
Marvin A couple things. I got a card in the mail, “Golden Buckeye card”. On your medicine you can get a discount. So we don’t file for Medicare, we use the Golden Buckeye. Call 1-800 422 1976 to register.
Mira they didn’t talk about alt. therapies in the movie, nor about wellness maintenance.
Helen: but they did talk about the French dr. getting a bonus for getting patients to quit smoking.
Mira I am so annoyed for my dental insurance. I am paying more now since I went through Medicare part D. I am thinking of withdrawing. The dental part is so expensive. 24 years ago I was involved in Single Payer Health Plan organization in Chicago… wonderful organization. It is so heartening to have this movie, Sicko. I think it is revolutionary. People should see it more than once. We have been taken in , hoodwinked by the insurance companies, but reps. Who have been bought off by drug companies etc.
Chris: …he pointed out that Hillary has received the second largest amount from Big Pharma.
I spent years in Italy in last ten years. Their health care system was terrific. We had some accidents … everything very civilized. My Italians friends had no complaints, no fears.
This pride we have about our system… the expression, “You are from wherever your dentist is.” I had my teeth cleaned in NY, assuming the Italians didn’t know dentistry. Then I had an inlay fall out.. I was in Tuscany…asked friends for a referral. In the dentist office next door to the coffee shop, all his equipment was better and more modern than the Hyde Park dentist here. It was terrific.
I wonder if the movie is only for those who already believe. I know many people here who won’t go to the movie.
Ginger I have also been to European dentists and emergency rooms. Not always great. Two years ago, lost a tooth on a baguette crossing the Alps, and three dentists couldn’t fix it for longer than two weeks.
I have had a bad ER experience also in France. A nightmare.
Gerry As bad as medical care outside the hosp. is, you really are in danger inside the hospital. Latest issue of AARP, “Never stay in the hospital without a relative or friend with you…could be your death knell.”
Marvin: three things f rom the movie. 1- Stressing free medical care. Also 2- free childcare. 3- free education preschool through college.
Think about that. Compare the cost of that to the cost of our being in Iraq.
What I see happening here…people’s job choice influenced by the medical benefits. Think of what that is doing for free choice?! Many don’t realize that companies are going into bankruptcy because of the health insurance premiums they have to pay on their employees. What will ultimately drive us to “free” health care is when the business world gets behind it. Many companies outsource lots of their jobs because then they don’t have to pay medical and other benefits.
I urge everyone to write their reps. And urge them to support free medical service.
Chris I have read that medical bills are the leading cause of personal bankruptcy.
Helen: …contributes to marital difficulties as well.
Mira it is not just universal healthcare, but “Single Payer”. If there is an intermediary, it will just play the game.
Shari Countries who now have single payer are able to make better deals with the Pharma. Companies. Today most insurance cos. Don’t cover “experimental” drugs.
Ellen fear… Americans are afraid, even upper middle class, prosperous…
Chris I want to tell you s… Big Pharma says “We have to have high prices because of R & D.” I was given Claritin for $8 for the same thing $75 here. In fact, research: Vasigen, a g roup of Docs. Studying heart disease, working on a drug; have raised money thru the public. They are in Canada. It is working its way thru the FDA. At a certain point, the big Pharma will buy it from Vasigen. The Big Pharma are spending their money not on research, but on advertising. That’s how the game is being played. They say “we have to have high prices on Claritin because of our R & D.” Not true.
Ginger the woman in the movie who cried at the cheap price of her inhaler. … Hillary, got crucified for her health care campaign. … What happened? Who is she now? Running for pres.
Chris When they showed Sicko in Europe, the Weinsteins co producers, decided to take that part out. Moore refused.
Gerry the money the Pharma gets are indeed going to ads. Sunday night movies are bombarded with advertising from Pharma.
Steve: “ I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night alive as you and me..”
Ginger What did happen to Hillary, and who is she now?
MaryCarol: she is leading in the dem. Race. Let’s write and ask her.
Chris They love her in liberal New York.
Ellen
we all know how this system works. A candidate cannot get exposure without money. Everyone has to juggle that reality with the principles and the money. Let’s understand that is the game that’s being played. Our job is to tease out. Sometimes you can have great presidents who play the game and play the game well. Taking contributions and being purchased, but they also represent us better than the current president.
Geri: but if we play the game it will never get better
Ellen: we won’t help the game through asking Hilary about her cookies, we will help by campaign finance reform.
Bill: Obama is further ahead than Hilary.
Mira: do you think Hillary would support single payer?
Marvin I wish somebody would connect all the money we are talking about, raised and spent on campaigns, and each individual who goes an votes. I don’t follow this connection. …an informed individual goes to vote. So what is the connection between campaign spending and voting… We should campaign for everyone to be well informed as voters.
Ellen salons
Marvin O’Reilly came here to talk. We were impressed. Subsequently he was fined by Ohio Supreme Court $5,000 for having made wrong allegations.
Ellen I was wrong for having endorsed him after he made a presentation here. I want to be more discerning in future.
Mira Speaking of health and politics, did you hear? The breakfast cereal people are going to stop promoting the highly sugared cereals to kids.
Chris it is only a spin move. Smoke and mirrors. See Times article.
Mira they acknowledged obesity epidemic in children, and role of sugar. … now trans fats are going down in use…
Gerry in The Omnivore’s Dilemma said it isn’t the sugar, it is corn and all its derivatives like high fructose corn syrup.
Mira Barbara Kingsolver on Speaking of Faith this Sunday on “Speaking of Faith”, WVXU at 6:30. Her book Animal Vegetable Miracle.
Gerry She is going to be at Findlay Mkt. on Sat.
~ End of Table Notes~
Hugs to everyone,
Ellen
Section Two: Events & Opportunities
Cindy Herrick (Clifton’s secret weapon) to present at the Salon Wed. 25 July
On the Clifton Cultural Arts Center
Every Community should be so lucky as to have a Cindy Herrick... Enlightened, energetic, indefatigable. Below, what she wrote on her project for Clifton: Ellen
The mission of the Clifton Cultural Arts Center (CCAC) is to strengthen the critical link between participation in the cultural arts and successful children, adults and communities. CCAC was formed in June 2004 after an extensive community engagement process surrounding construction of a new public school building in Clifton (Cincinnati, Ohio) and the resultant vacancy of a 1906 public school building and adjacent 1880s stone carriage house. CCAC will renovate these two historic buildings into a 57,000 square foot Cultural Arts Center on a 9-acre urban campus, which includes a Cincinnati Recreation Commission Center and the future $13 million, 85,000 square foot public school.
CCAC is currently raising capital funds for renovation of the Clifton Carriage House and the 1906 Clifton School building. Carriage House renovation (October 2007 – August 2008) is estimated at $700,000 and timed in conjunction with the completion of the new public school, allowing teachers to integrate use of the Carriage House during the day for students when the new school is open. Renovation of the 1906 Clifton School will occur in 3 phases following completion of the Carriage House, beginning in September 2008 and finishing in late 2010.
The CCAC vision is rooted in collaboration (www.cliftonculturalarts.org). CCAC will draw in large and small organizations to expand their own audiences and foster development of new initiatives. Core programming provided by large, established organizations (Art Academy of Cincinnati, CCM Prep Department, and the Institute for Lifetime Education) is like anchor businesses in a shopping or business center. The presence of established programs will draw other organizations of all sizes and provide a home for those without their own space. The presence of the school and recreation center on the community learning center campus will provide for further synergies among partner organizations.
To learn more come to the presentation on Wednesday, July 25.
SINGING PARTY Sat.
Please come to a Singing Party, a gathering to sing just for fun: golden oldies, campfire songs, spirituals, “60s music,” freedom, protest, & peace songs, rounds— whatever you like. If you have Rise Up Singing books, please bring them. If you like, bring about 30 copies of a song you like that you’re willing to teach. Friends, guitars and other instruments, and munchies are all welcome!
WHEN: Saturday, July 21, 7:30 p.m.
WHERE: 1306 Paddock Hills Avenue
from Clifton: North on Reading to Paddock, left onto Paddock Road, right at the first light onto Paddock Hills Avenue to the end
via I-75: take Exit 7, the Norwood Lateral, immediately turn right (south) onto Paddock Road, cross Tennessee, and turn left at the next light onto Paddock Hills Avenue
1306 is at the end, on the circle—yellowish tan, with white trim
RSVP: MaryCarol Hopkins or Josh at 242-8455
FREE YOGA class at Burnet Woods every Saturday through September 1st:
11:15 am ˆ 12:15 pm
Bring a mat or towel, water & sunglasses
Adjoining the University of Cincinnati, Burnet Woods is located at Clifton Avenue between Martin Luther King Jr. Drive and Ludlow Avenue. The yoga class will meet at the historic bandstand located in the park. It is one of the oldest structures in the Cincinnati park system and a beautiful location for yoga. Surrounded by trees, blue skies and green grass, we will embrace the presence of nature in yoga. All levels welcome. Come anytime!
For more information contact:
Gratitude in Motion 268 Ludlow Avenue Cincinnati, Ohio 45220
info@gratitudeinmotion.com | 888-899-9642 | www.gratitudeinmotion.com
Come enjoy…
BACK YARD SINGING PARTY
…at the Nurre’s
5851 Wyatt Ave Cincinnati Ohio
Sat, JULY 28, 2007
6:30 POTLUCK
7:30 SINGING
From “Rise up Singing Song Book”.
Bring Folding chair, flashlight, potluck, instrument voice, or friend(s) and RUS songbook.
RSVP (513)731-3530
Hope to see you there,
David and Ally Nurre
p.s. call for directions (closest major intersection is Woodford and Kennedy) (sounds like Pleasant ridge or Kennedy Hgts. To me. Ellen)
Ellen Bierhorst, Ph.D. Is a holistic psychotherapist with over 35 years experience. Specialty area: Optimizing Mental Health ~ “Better than well”. Also: healing trauma, strengthening families and relationships, alcohol and other addictions including food, and weight management, EMDR, GLBT, chronic pain and physical illness. Clifton. 513 221 1289 www.lloydhouse.com
Thursday Night Drum Circle
What: Thursday Night Drum Circle
When: Thursday, July 26, 7:00 PM
Where: Click the link below to find out!
Event Description: This Drum Circle Is Every Thursday Night.
No cost love offering is gladly accepted
Riverside Coffee Mill
177 S Riverside Drive
Batavia , OH 45103
513 732 BEAN
Learn more here:
http://drumcircle.meetup.com/41/calendar/6029745/
This message was sent by Bob Laake (laakeb@roadrunner.com) from Cincinnati Drum Circle Tribal Dance.
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Residential space available at the Lloyd House: third floor single room with bathroom ... Can be furnished; has double bed size sleeping loft; also queen size bed on floor, desk, rug. $350 monthly contribution. Call Ellen 513 221 1289
Also is available by the night for guests from out of town. Think “B & B” without the breakfast. $100 minimum, $55/night.
Beautiful and Charming, spacious first floor office space at the Lloyd House, fully furnished including bodywork table, chairs, love seat, rugs, armchairs, wood burning (gas ignited ) fireplace. Rookwood even. Available by the hour. Share waiting room. Powder room. Outside entry. Terms: contribute 20% of gross to the house. Call Ellen 221 1290
HAPPY FEET......Back by Popular demand!! The 33 Foot Form with Alan Hundley, Licensed Massage Therapist .Q. What has 26 bones, 33 joints, and 107 ligaments? A: Each of your two feet. It's not massage, not reflexology, but a series of manipulations, stretches, spirals, torsions, compressions, decompressions, extensions (with a little energy work thrown in), that will help your feet (and you) stay happier. The 33 Foot Form is a step by step approach that anyone can learn, It can serve as a do it yourself and/or do it for someone else foot therapy. No exotic lotions or creams are needed (but bring them if you like), you just need a willingness to explore. It would be a good idea to bring a towel and a couple of pillows. Clean feet would also be nice. Bring a friend or come alone. Hand outs will be given to diagram the sequenceOr call 513-533-9642
Note: You do NOT have to be a massage therapist to attend.
Sunday, July 29th
1 pm- 4pm
Shine Yoga Center˜3330 Erie Ave.
$33. in advance, $39 at the door
Register at Shine or online at shineyoga.com/events
Section Three: Articles
Contents:
- Join Salonista Steve Sunderland in objecting to Supreme Court ruling on race and education (held over from last week... Important to join in signing this.)
- Salonista Karen Vossler sends in piece about victory of a Tax Resister over the IRS
Steve Sunderland: Supreme Court goes ‘Colorblind’! ... Want to join with Steve in this letter? Send email to Steve Sunderland <sundersc@email.uc.edu> print and send it yourself or write your own letter. Ellen.
Background: On 6/28/07 the Supreme Court decided by a vote of 5 to 4 to throw out school board plans by Seattle and Louisville because of the use of race to balance schools. 4 Justices were agreed that race could not be used. One Justice said he agreed with the majority but race could sometimes be used. 4 other Justices said that the majority was wrong based on precedents of previous cases over the past 50 years.
Dear Chief Justice Roberts:
The recent decision of the majority of the Supreme Court to change systems of school discrimination from those that are race based to "colorblind" ones, ignores some of the important themes of the past 60 years:
1. The American people have tried to move from segregated frames of reference to integrated ones even though many state, local and federal practitioners along with religious and political leaders have fought almost every attempt. The good will of the American people stretches back a long way in the area of civil rights: early in our Revolutionary years, Benjamin Franklin, a former slave owner, led an abolitionist movement that had a deep impression on Washington and Jefferson. The failure to abolish slavery before the Civil War, as Britain did, has led to halting steps for justice in the minds of many Americans. We are caught, again, with confusion about whether our Constitution is a document of justice or injustice. Americans, taking the principles of this Court's latest decision, can now avoid the good conscience effort to seek to break down segregated schooling and housing patterns, economic discriminatory rules, and religious bigotry. Traditionally, many citizens of this country know what is right; yet, our Supreme Court has chosen to act as if racial prejudice against children is a past experience and need not be corrected by plans for inclusion. "I fear the consequences... for the law, for the schools, for the democratic process, and for American's efforts to create, out of its diversity, one Nation." Dissent by Justice Bryer in Parents Involved in Community Schools v. Seattle School District No. 1 et al.
2. The American people are committed to some form of good education for their children even though segregated systems of education, created as part of a private and parochial system, have too often sent a counter message: "We need to be separate if we are to have "good" education." This Court's decision makes it difficult to raise the standard of justice in education for all of our children and plays into the fears and biases of our public that "racially balanced" schools may lower educational standards. The American public knows that prejudice, hatred, and unfairness are not correct attitudes in terms of defining educational systems for children and neighborhoods. The legacy of racism has created a mind-set that says that re-segregation is "the best we can do." The school systems of Louisville, Seattle, Cincinnati and other major cities reflects a stubborn racism only partially relieved by prior Supreme Court rulings. Rather than focus on the tremendous breakthroughs to improve diversity in teacher training, neighborhood involvement, and the political action of school boards since the 1954 Supreme Court decision in Brown, your Court's decision reinforces the attitude of consigning children to poor schools, poor employment and deteriorating cities. "And what of law's concern to diminish and peacefully settle conflict among the Nation's people? Instead of accommodating different good-faith visions of our country and our Constitution, today's holding upsets settled expectation, creates legal uncertainty, and threatens to produce considerable further litigation, aggravating race-related conflict." Justice Bryer for the minority in the dissent.
3. The American people are committed to education that sees the gifts of every child and builds on these gifts through creative, compassionate, and integrated education. The American experience of segregation fosters a negative and faulty perspective on what it takes to build good schools and educate healthy children. Children who are hated for their skin color, or, treated rudely because of their use of a language different from English, or, singled out to receive "labels" that hide their human potential, are citizens that will have to fight against your decision to make justice the central value of our schools. The Court's decision goes against research in education that reveals the many gifts of children pervious excluded from integrated systems of education. These gifts cannot easily be seen without methods that respect the culture of each child and methods that can look past skin color, language skills and surface "disabilities.""...the plurality's approach risks serious harm to the law and for the Nation. Its view of the law rests either upon a denial of the distinction between exclusionary and inclusive use of race-conscious criteria in the context of the Equal Protection Clause, or upon such a rigid application of its "test" that the distinction loses practical significance. Consequently, the Court's decision today slows down and sets back the work of local school boards to bring about racially diverse schools." Justice Bryer for the four dissenting Justices.
4. The efforts to build a strong America have never been easy. The questions surrounding prejudice have been very deep elements in our national character. Perhaps slavery has so frightened the average majority American that only very limited progress can be sustained in our schools. Perhaps our majority fears of difference will continue to construct temporary barriers to those students and their families, also Americans, who seek an America that is fundamentally welcoming of difference, . The ruling of your Court is a setback for parents and children in our schools. But is only a temporary slowing down of what is a stronger and more compassionate force in our society. Racial harmony can be obtained. Inclusion of students based on conscious and planned choices will occur. The Supreme Court, prior to 1954, walked backward on American justice. The last 60 years have taught us that the journey to change our society is rarely easy, frequently filled with conflict, and inextricably bound up with historical ignorance. Yet, the Supreme Court changed for the better and improved our country. Your decision threatens all of this progress. Yet, we see that we must raise our voices in protest of your ideas. The songs we sing shall inspire us until that day when, "We Shall Overcome."
In peace,
Steve Sunderland, Ph.D., Director
Peace Village
513.919.2538
professor of educational and peace studies
University of Cincinnati
College of Education, Criminal Justice and Human Services
Cincinnati, OH 45221-0049
Ultimately, we have just one moral duty: to reclaim large areas of peace in ourselves, more and more peace, and to reflect it towards others. And the more peace there is in us, the more peace there will be in our troubled world.
Etty Hillesum
Tax Resister wins over IRS
Hi Ellen,
This tidbit might be of interest to the Salon:
Tom Cryer was found NOT GUILTY on all counts in an IRS case. This is a
big win! Mr. Cryer is an attorney and had Larry Becraft, another freedom
fighter in IRS cases, as council. The decision?: The government does not
have the right to tax one's labor unless one acquiesces. They used the
Supreme Court rulings. He was on Coast to Coast last night and Noory is
going to set aside a program for him to explain how the IRS misapplies
the law and runs rough shot over people. His memorandum is at
Read the story leading up to the win:
http://www.gcstation.net/liefreezone
Karen Vossler
Section Four: Books/Movies/Magazines/Reviews
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Come on... send me names of books and stuff you are enjoying. ellen
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