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Section One: Table Notes
NOTES MAY NOT BE ACCURATE AND HAVE NOT BEEN PROOFED.
At the Table on Monday, 2/20/06_: Cheryl Hayden, Shari Able, Janet Kalven, Erica , Mr. G., Mike Murphy, Robyn Repasky, Spencer Konicov, Chad Benjamin Potter, Ellen Bierhorst, Kerry Conte, Mira Rodwan, Vlasta Molak,
Topics Nominated:
Mike M: God, Genes, and Consciousness Non human intervention in human history. Paul Von Ward. Extra Terrestrials came and invluenced humans. Evidence from bible, ancient texts. Mythis. Evidence. Ancient Sumerian tablets talking about beings from the sky. They traumatized humanity, we have been in PTSD ever since.
Spencer: sounds like Intelligent design.
Mike: Article in Cincinnati magazine current issue on Sally Ransahof, organic gardener. ³The woman behind the best chefs in town.²
Mike: I will be giving a workshop at the Ohio Ecological Food and Farmers Association meeting OEFFA, in Granville N. of Cols. Peak oil and what it means to organic farmers. 930 am March 4, Saturday. Costs $75. Partner is Pat Murphy.
Robyn : what are the ramifications of the Democratic party forcing Paul Hacket out of the Senatorial race.
Vlasta Molak: I want 15 minutes next Monday to present Gaia Oasis. Everybody invited to Gaia party pot luck with entertainment 8987 Cotillion Dr. on Sunday 5:30. $18
Mr. G.: to go on and on about theories we want to believe... I would love there to be a God, if it is the way I was promised. Richard Dawkins, an evol. biologist, gives an explanation of how an eye could develop over millions of years through natural selection. Google Richard Dawkins, eye.
What does it mean to hold the President accountable e.g. for illegal wiretapping.
Shari: how has he gotten away from it this long?
Mike: Chenney and Bush are high priests of the oil religion. ... since Henry Ford. The people running things are the Enrons ... they have been doing it a long time. Now the mask is ripped off ... classic fascist take over.
Spencer: I was in college, a prof. recommended ³Who gets what, how, why² Harold Lasswell. I recommend everybody read this tiny book. The bible in a free market economy. How money influences decisions. Fantastic little book. Easy read.
Janet: he was a prof. U. of Chicago. I think he called his subject ³the psychology of politics².
Mr. G.: ... a word Alan used, justice, the whole idea of how do business with a government that wants you dead, e.g. Israel and the Palestin. ... are we kidding ourselves. Maybe the word justice is obsolete. Maybe it is just waht you get used to, understand, and depend on. Your idea that it is god given, or fixed in stone is maybe delulsional. People here talk like it is a fixed, permanent notion.
Janet: it goes back to Plato¹s Republic. If you don¹t have an idea of justice you just have the law of the hjungle. Might is right. Much in our world operates that way. Is that the best that human beings can do?
Mike: ...ties back into what we were saying earlier about the Koran. Yes, things have been cut in stone but yes they are some what delusional. ... I am an anarchist. But I am happy to add a few rules... It is not so much delusional as it is a matter of ongoing decision about what is right and fair. It used to be slavery was right and fair. We make up the rules. They come out of our hearts and minds. We have to get rid of the notion that justice comes down from on high. The idea comes from within us.
Steve: you said almost everything I wanted to say, Mike. Extraordinary. M L King, a belief in the never ending discovery of justice in ourselves and others. If we could hold on to the hope that we can awaken to the justice in ourselves that we create and in society for others, then there is hope for a beloved community. I am convinced we are in the iminority, those who want to convert might makes right and converting to ³love your neighbor² or ³do no harm² or ³turn the other cheek². We have discovered and rediscovered justice and it is our saving even in the shadown of the holocaust, of the genocide of the Indians, etc. etc. ... discover justice in this moment, so we can rescue ourselves in Iraq, in Medicare .
Spencer: to me justice is not delusional. What has been written and we agreed to abide by. We elected a president to abide by the constitution ... this president seems to be ³I make my own laws². ... to allow a ceo of this country to say ³It¹s what I want so I am going to believe it². To say ³I know there are wmd in Iraq² ... hold Republicans accountable for what they have elected.
Mr. G. Contradictions in what people have said. ... we are all different, how could we have a common notion of justice. The thing about Bush elected to uphold the laws. A crock. I think there were large groups who felt they were being sidelined and they wanted their day. What¹s so abnormal about stacking the deck in your favor. What¹s so new? Lots of institutions do that, like the World Bank. Capitolism. To you justic lovers: what ydo you do in a dog eat dog world when you are trying to push justice. ? Bush is surrounded by people who won¹t put Bush in jail.
Janet: we have a constitution, a body of laws. a whole structure. to insure justice. We are imperfect, but at least we have an idea and an ideal.
Mira: this is a place to recharge our energy, feel hope, work together. But it is not a town hall. Although something close to town hall happens in Northside in the community meetings. Also public demonstrations: an amazing experience to stand with Women in Black every Monday. I reach out and say hello... sometimes you get a finger, sometimes two fingers in a peace sign. All kinds of comments. Veterans who suport our demonstration .... It is important to make your statement and see how the response is ...while it is still safe. Sometimes I dream of having a sign on top of my car so I can tell people what I am thinking.
Robyn: the innitial question is How to hold someone accountable for his actions? He claims he has constitutional authority. How we can ... is to vote at the mid term election.
Paul Hackett, very good candidate, almost won in the second Ohio district. He decided to run for Senate, and the Dem party said, No you just run again for congress. Could Mr. Hackett help hold Bush accountable had he gotten in to the House? Maybe he was into megalomania in running for senate. How hold Bush accountable? To disburse the people around him in the mid term election.
Shari: I think we are looking at justic from the wrong end. Justice is evolutionary. What happens in evol. is what works survives. J. is like that too. We all know we didn¹t have Lincoln emancipation of slaves until he needed it for the civil war effort. Not because of justice. ... Had HItler won WWII we wouldn¹t talk of ³holocaust², but would refer to it as say, a cleansing.
... Intelligent design proponents would say evol. is not good enough. There has to be a being out there designing things. So let just let justice also evolve. (Ellen: I didn¹t understand this eloquent speech. Sorry.)
Spencer: ... the original commandement was Thou shalt not kill a member of your own tribe. ... then the idea evolved ... now it is Thou shalt not kill. So maybe Shari has a great point. Justice like all human endeavors does evolve. If so it evolves through the action of legislatures.
Mike: Shari you took one of my topics out of my mouth. I was going to say the same thing, not as eloquently. To say that a river flows, you have to say what it is that flows. We create justice; it evolves; we create new justice. finally we say we have to make a new rule. ... ³Women can vote². ... The intelligent design point: someone has to popose the idea. Who are these people, where does this inniative come from? From us. We are ³god¹s² agents.
Janet: you could write the decl. of independence ³all men are created equal². It took a long time for men to recognize women are equally human. You have the fundamental idea of equality, but who do you embrace as falling under that. Immigarnts.
Mr G: we are not equal. We are far from equal. We are different. What does equal mean.?
spencer: equal in the eyes of the law. How government relates to them. This is a document that was written declaring independence from Brittan ... they were treating us as unequal citizen. They were taking an imperial position over us... just like Bush.
Mr G: it isn't equality, it is power.
Steve: ... it is not biological equality; it is not reiligious equality. The great gift of the enlightenment is equality before the law. That we have managed to mess up. We have polluted it by making power as ... some are more or less powerful than others. The great struggle is to make us all equal before the law, hope to achieve this as a country. As we get closer to having the law of equality, will we have to divide... red and blue? ... Constitutiona congress decided to postpone the slavery issue for 20 years ... mistake. Still reaping the harm done by that.
Mike: not equality before the law. We start with ³we were created equal². The point is we are not below some diviely apointed sovreign above us. King. We should have a say so in the government. the important thing is that we asserted we the people are a sovreign people, and we make the law. (We took a lot of this from the Iriquois nation through Benj. Franklin.) The Algonquian Confederaqcy.
Mike on ET
Occam¹s Razor. You take the simplest explanation that accounts for the facts.
Anthropologist, historians ... note the sudden appearance in the fertile crescent of all the arts: reading, writing, metalurgy, slavery, settled dwelling, ... No gradualism. How do you explain that? Grass huts and then suddenly all these things. So there is room for an E.T. type explanation as the most simple one.
I had a show at Sitwell¹s and had a sketch of one of these sumarian tablets with a drawing of ething that might be a rocket. Plus stories that say ³I went up like the eagle... ³
Everybody knows Carl Sagan... at MIT. John Mack at Harvard psychiatry dept. who collected alien abduction stories. finally went to Sagan who said all delusional.
But reports kept coming in. John went to MIT physics dept. This time the evidence was examined. A five day conference at MIT. 1990. On Allien stories. ³Close Encounters of the Fourth Kind². the book generated. Presented evidence. Multiple witnesses. ... there is hard evidence, contemporary, and also going back thousands of years. Are we going to dismissi the evidence like Sagan?
Spencer: I want, as hogreve, to hear from those who have not spoken.
Erica: what I think is you make justice too difficult. Laws don¹t create justice. Justice comes from an innate sense of self. Some examples of power ... I believe that people have an understanding when people do something wrong. People have a sense. Visceral response... something not right. so in any given situation, you understand if y ou were on the other end you wouldn¹t like it. ...
Kerry: re justice ... what can we do about it? This group ... just amazing. Like any demonstration down town, those make a difference. I am wondering how we can make more of a difference.
Chad: This is another jack ass idea I heard from prof. Jean collins four years ago as a Freshman. I am just going to put it out there. In most paintings, hieroglyphics, Byzantine... there are images of space crafts. Circular objects that look like saucers. Even today people report saucers. Spin. They come and take you up. Same image throughout all time. Isn¹t it odd that there is no evolution and development of ...
Hypothesis: they are not aliens, they are human time travelers from the future. ... There are hieroglyphics beneath the sphyinx that say there is a chamber beneath it that will change human history. People want to open the chamber, but the Egyptian gov¹t won¹t approve.
Mr. G: I think I have leaned that you guys are even more different than I even k new.
(laugh)
Mira: ³What the Bleep do We know?² movie. We watched Sat.
I remember, the L on Chicago, before 1984, I remember a memento (graggiti). ³1776 or 1984?² A radical leftist put that there. I want peaceful ways to be used as the strong way, peaceful way to change things. I don¹t see that emmerging, so I hope it will come soon. .... then there are crop circles.
Steve: the messiah ... An eye illness, flashing lights when a rip in cornea... diabetics ... this is such a great story, either version. As Walt used to say It¹s a wonderful world.
Mr. G. Why did they have to come from the future? Why not the past?
Spencer: I come h ere each week for the entertainment. It¹s great to be here. We expand our vocabularies.
Cheryl: I think as far as justice being evolutionary, I think there are several kinds of justice. Maybe Mr G was talking about the concept of j. I am looking at a set of laws. ... evolving. Now, marriage rights for gay and lesbian folks. Some th ink it wrong that some people cannot have the benefits of marriage ... a groundswell here and there. Laws being made and fought over to rectify this. I see this as evolution of justice. I think it is unjust that evberybody cannot validate who they love, and particiopate in all of the other benefits. I never paid attention very much until those folks who made outcry. It wasn¹t only Susan B Anthony who got us the vote; but all the suffragists. Not right that women cannot vote.
Mr G: isn¹t justice relativistice (Ellen¹s paraphrase)?
Spencer: justice is like an onion. Slowly we expand the concept as we add layers as more and more comes to light, we become aware of it.
Ellen: (It is fascinating to me to see how wisdom comes from the table discussion.)
~ end of table notes ~
Hugs to everyone,
Ellen
Section Two: Announcements
2/25
Hello All,
Our very own, Chad Benjamin Potter, UC-CCM student and regular at the Potluck is going to Louisiana over Spring Break to help the National Relief Network in their continuing efforts to clean up the mess left by this year's meteorological menaces. Check out the website ( www.nrn.org <http://www.nrn.org> ) to get a view at some of the experiences he has in store. He will be sure to give a full report of his adventures upon returning.
To fund the trip, he needs to collect $399.00 by the week of March 6th. That's about two weeks from today. If you would like to contribute a tax deductible donation to this trip, please bring a check (payable to National Relief Network) to the Monday Night Salon, or mail it to Chad Benjamin Potter at 228 Klotter Ave #3 Cincinnati, OH 45219. He needs to send the funds no later than March 10th, so please contribute what you can as soon as you can.
Thank you in advance.
Lloyd House has Space Available
2/18/06 So Matthew has a new romance, so suddenly I have his beautiful space available as well as the small single on third floor. I'd like either to find two new housemates or else form a group who wants to co-own the property and live in a co-housing style here helping me to handle the maintenance and utilities.
Matthew's 2 rooms on third floor. NE corner of house. One E facing window, 2 small N facing windows. Private full bath. Furnished with beautiful teak queen size bed and dresser, desk, wood and glass dining table for 4, coffee table, chaise longue, two beautiful dhurrie rugs. Room adjoins spacious and beautiful zendo turret room used for meditation, yoga, drum circle, etc. Shares third floor kitchen with 3 other housemates. $420.
Jason's room, small single on third floor, one W facing window, double bed size suspended sleeping loft, large closet. Bathroom right outside the door in the hall. Shares third floor kitchen with 3 other housemates. $350.
Also, first floor room for office, studio, ...? This is a large oak paneled room with Rookwood fireplace. Currently furnished with king size loft bed platform, sofa, arm chair, Dhurrie rug, long oak library table. Could share the living room with me as a waiting room. Has its own outside entry door. A very handsome room. Terrific for massage practice, for instance. $320?
And come summer barring a miracle job for Alan in the city, we will have his beautiful two room suite available on second floor, plus sleeping porch.
Other Perqs: off street parking, free laundry, high speed internet, living room with piano, TV, DVD, VCR, community iMac Computer. Dining room seats 16+. Veranda off dining room with Hatteras swing, furniture. Easy access to Monday night salon pot luck, Saturday morning Dharma Study group, Sat. evening drumming circle, and ....
The Lloyd House is a stimulating, friendly, multi-cultural environment. Good vibes are required, as is a rock solid financial responsibility. Housemates can be as private or as friendly as they wish. Know anyone who might like to explore this? No undergraduates, no pets, no smoking. Prefer someone who would be interested in participating in the Salon and/or other activities here. Call me: 221 1289
P.S. It feels like something new might be about to happen with regard to the use of the Lloyd House. Help me dream that up. 221 1289 or email Ellen ellenbierhorst@lloydhouse.com
2/26
Gospel Music Feast at St. Anthony
Sunday Feb 26 4:00 pm
St Anthony Catholic Church 6104 Desmond St. Madisonville
4 different church choirs.
These people rock! I'll be there. Ellen
Hey Lloyd House Drumming Circle!
At our weekly Sat. night drumming circle we have a blast. Djembes, other drums, shakers of all descriptions, flute, recorder, animal sounds (!), Dancing, .. now trying it on the first floor where we can also use the grand piano and won't have to schlep drums up to the third floor. Come!
Just two hours, not long, refreshing, healing, ... Come join in this.
Love and kisses,
Ellen
Please Note this: if you have an email list of drumming people (or dance people, or chant people or instrumental improv. people ... folks who would love this) would you please send this announcement to them and ...
If you are getting this announcement SECOND HAND from a friend, not from me, Ellen, would you PLEASE send me an email
ellenbierhorst@lloydhouse.com
and ask to be subscribed to the drum list? Just send an empty email message and put in the SUBJECT LINE the words "subscribe drum".
...............................................................................
OK, so get yourself here ( 3901 Clifton Ave, Cinti.) Saturday, and any/every Saturday night at 7 pm. Let's keep t his building. Keep happy during winter. Heal yourself.
Logistics: Lloyd House 3901 Clifton Avenue zip 45220, use mapquest.com if you don't know your way here. Park on Lafayette ave. after unloading drums. Do NOT block the driveway. Remove shoes in foyer. Walk up rear stairs (pass the big front staircase) to third floor. Bring snacks or drinks if you like. Bring love and good vibes, any musical instruments or any kind, etc. etc. All children welcome.
Love and beats,
Ellen
2/26
8987 Cotillion Drive
Cincinati, Ohio 45231
tel. 521-9321
This is in Finneytown, passed Brentwood Plaza while driving north on Winton Road, turn left into Cherryblossom and then at the first stopsign turn right into cotillion. My is the third house on the right. hope to see you there, but before that I will see you at your house. If you can, please send my invitation to your 500 list. I can accomodate about 80 people comfortably in various rooms.
Subject: GAIA FOUNDATION GALA on Sunday, Febrary 26 at 5:30 pm
Dear friends:
Gaia Foundation is a non-for-profit 501.c.3 educational and research organization that is just about to start cleaning up and redeveloping the ailing heart of our city of Cincinnati (see attachments). In order to expedite the process, we are having a party, which will also include fundrising. If you cannot pay $18, you can give us a commitment of 2 hours of work for Gaia Foundation.
Please come with a potluck dish of your choice and pride. The basic party needs will be provided by the host (GAIA FOUNDATION founder and President). GAIA Foundation is finally getting real life and we want to celebrate it with our friends. Come as you are, if you cannot afford a dish, or cannot cook and/or prepare food.SVM
Dr. Vlasta Molak
President
GAIA UNLIMITED, Inc.
8987 Cotillion Drive
Cincinnati, Ohio 45231
tel. 513/521-9321
E-mail: DrMolak@email.com
Web: http://www.ccas.ru/cito/gaia
3/4 Friend and local luminary Ed Gutfreund is offering a workshop. It will surely be terrific! ellen
From: <egutfreund@fuse.net>
> >
> > PRESENCE--Deepening the Therapeutic Alliance
> > A Workshop for Counselors & Psychotherapists
> > Saturday, March 4, 2006 ceu's applied for
> > 9 am to 5 pm
> >
> >
> > LOCATION
> > 951 West North Bend Road A-3, Cincinnati OH 45224
> > REGISTER
> > Send fee of $95 if postmarked by 2/20/06, $105 if after. Include your name,
> > address, phone and email. You may also register by email and send fee
> > separately.
> >
> > Workshop Flyer available at www.presencepractice.com
> >
3/8 Green Construction Expo
³The one place where the entire industry can meet to discover and share leading edge ideas, applications and technology²
Wednesday March 8, 2006 Sharonville Convention Center
Product Show: 5:00 pm 8:30 pm Workshops: 1:00 pm 5:00 pm
Construction Products Showcase
Presented by:
The Cincinnati Chapter of
The Construction Specifications
Institute
Free Admission
Door Prizes All Night
Free Food and Beverages
$1000 Grand Prize!
(Must be present to win)
Join hundreds of industry professionals at The 27th Annual CSI Construction Products Showcase, as you experience growth in product and professional knowledge, and benefit from networking with your peers.
See, touch, and learn about the latest products and technology from more than 100 of the industry¹s leading companies. They¹ll discuss business and technology advances and look for ways to help you become more efficient and profitable.
Select your targets, chart your course, leave room for discovery, stop and ask, and chose your literature carefully. We are sure your visit to The CSI Construction Products Showcase will be profitable and rewarding.
Also at Construct CincinnatiŠ
Most Innovative Building Practices
VisionaryProductSolutions, Inc
8:30 am -12:30 pm
and
The ACI Annual Meeting
Contact AIA Cincinnati for details
BuildGreen Workshops
Presented by
The Committee on the Environment of the Cincinnati Chapter of the American Institute of Architects and the Ohio/Kentucky Chapter of the International Interior Design Association
1:00 pm 2:00 pm
High Performance Workspace
Haworth
The economic and design viability of creating environmentally sustainable commercial office interiors
Advanced Exterior Wall Systems and Moisture Control
Centria
The key performance criteria for advanced exterior wall construction, how the design and construction rules are changing, and how metal cladding systems can provide excellent performance and moisture control
2:15 pm 3:15 pm
Investing in Sustainable Interior Environments
Lees Carpet
Current sustainable design practices and concepts and methods to develop healthy interior environments
Daylighting Research and Design
Advanced Glazings
Current research methods and findings to successfully incorporate daylighting design
3:30 pm 5:00 pm
Peeling back the Ecolabel
Scientific Certification Systems (SCS)
Evaluating environmental claims, the truths and myths behind the countless eco-labels in today¹s market and advantages of obtaining third-party product certification
Register to Attend the Green Build Workshops
through AIA Cincinnati.
Contact Pat Daugherty
by phone at (513) 421-4661
by email at aiacinti@fuse.net
or go to www.aiacincinnati.org.
Workshop Registration
$25.00 (pre-registered)
$30.00 (at the door)
Student attendance is free.
Register now and save!
3/11
Muse: New Spirituals Concert
Cathy Roma, Muse,
w/ Linda Tillery
March 10, 11
8:pm at House of Joy in College Hill
Be there or regret it! ellen
Tickets $15 online: musechoir.org
Shakit Records
Childcare? call 221 1118 to make reservation by March 3
Local Forest Habitat Restoration Events
Burnet Woods March 11th 9:00 to 1:00 Meet at Trailside Nature Center - Info. Steve 961-7711
Green Up Day and Great American Cleanup combined April 22 Burnet Woods
Info. Cindi Nugent 861-8970
Rawson Woods April 29, 10-12. garlic mustard pull and trash clean up. Meet your neighbors at the corner of Middleton and McAlpin. Info. Joy at 221-8285.
All events are with the Cincinnati Park Board.
Dress for the weather, bring your own water, and gloves.
Questions? ask Steve Slack slack@fuse.net
3/12
Soul Movement
A day workshop in Hellinger Family Constellation WorkLed by Meredith Balgley
Sunday March 12: 10-6pm
in Asheville, N.C.
To register, call Art Mandler at (828) 225-8202 or write: art@tambors.net
Cost : $95
Experience group work based on Bert Hellinger¹s observations of trans-generational family bonds and of spontaneous ³movements of the soul². This work has brought profound healing and reconciliation to many whose lives it has touched.
Family love runs deep, whether or not it is expressed. It gives us strength from our origins and our place to belong. Its bonds connect us to all our family¹s members and ancestors, even those who have been excluded or forgotten.
Loyalty in families not only binds us in love but can bind us to our family¹s fate and unresolved pain. We can find ourselves unconsciously reliving other family members¹ suffering. Our bonds of love can become ones of entanglement.
Soul constellation work can give you a picture of what deeper forces may be at work in your life. It can reveal hidden entanglements, and can let them release and move toward healing. It may do this by acknowledging people in your life who have been forgotten or excluded. It may do this by asking you to honor the fate of others, relieving you of the need to carry their burdens. When fate and previous generations are honored, power and life and love can flow to you from the past.
Many issues in your present life can be addressed in this workshop: relationships, life choices, health concerns, feelings, spiritual questions. You can also gain much from observing the work of others. By acting as a representative in other people¹s constellations, you can glimpse life from a perspective beyond your own.
*****
Meredith Balgley is a graduate of the Gabrielle Borkan Institute where she trained in Hellinger Family Constellation Work. She has attended trainings, workshops and conferences with Bert Hellinger, Dr. Stephan Hausner, Dr.Bertold Ulsamer, Sneh Victoria Schnabel, Dr.Gunthard Weber, Heinz Stark, Dr.Albrecht Mahr, Hunter Beaumont, Katie Atherton and Gabrielle Borkan. On her path to this work, Meredith has studied the Pathwork, Re-evaluation Counseling, Buddhism, Judaism, trauma recovery and bodywork. She has an MSW in clinical social work. The experience that has helped her most as a constellation facilitator has been in her life as a daughter, sister, wife, and mother of two sons.
³The mind is quick and often misses its mark;
The soul is slow and always on target² Bert Hellinger
2/25
Scorecard: The Pollution Information Site
Concerned about issues with your water and air?
Enter your Zip code at http://www.scorecard.org/
This will alert you to the major polluters in your area.
See also information on chemicals, watersheds, superfund sites, and animal wastes.
And then ask yourself, "What am I doing to make this situation better or worse?"
Blessings
Quantum Wellness Partners
www.5pillars.com <http://www.5pillars.com/> #838192700
2/25
Vic Wulsin, M.D. calls for us to help Free Medical Clinic at the Free Store in OTR.
Dear Friends,
–
Wouldn’t you give one hour to make a substantial difference in the lives of other Cincinnatians who, without your help, would not receive their essential medical and psychiatric care? The Health Resource Center (inside the Free Store) is the only free clinic in Cincinnati. We see hundreds of patients and clients, most of whom have dual (mental and physical illnesses) diagnoses and are homeless. Many are on parole and need help finding jobs. If every resident and do-gooder in the Greater Cincinnati would donate just one hour of his/her time, the Health Resource Center could operate into perpetuity! Let us start now.
Please do your part.
- Donate the value of one of your working hours: if you earn $100,000/year, $50; if you earn $10/hour, $10. Make the check to Health Resource Center, 112 E. Liberty St., Cincinnati, Ohio 45210. The HRC is a 501(c)3 non-profit organization, whose donations are 100% tax deductible. Give more if you can.
- Attend our 10th Anniversary Celebration this Saturday (Jan 21) at Kingsgate, 7:30 – 10:00 pm. HRC is requesting a $60 donation, but pay what you can. If you want to celebrate with us and cannot afford to donate, COME ANYWAY! You, your friends, your colleagues, and your family are welcome to the exciting event:
- Master of Ceremonies = Rick Sowash
- Entertainment by the Mount Auburn Cantiga and the Gospel Choir of Cincinnati.
- Keynote address by Mayor Mark Mallory.
- Silent auction, featuring a week-end with a Jaguar (the car, not the animal); complete services for men at a local spa; baseball signed by Johnny Bench; football signed by a Bengal whom I’m sure you’d recognize; ballet tickets; one-of-a-kind artwork and jewelry; chocolate; fur coat; and much, much more…
- Chance to mingle with some incredible activists making our community better.
- Invite your friends; spread the word.
xoxox,
Vic
Victoria Wells Wulsin, MD, DPH
SOTENI International
2366 Kemper Lane
Cincinnati, Ohio 45206
513-961-2100 x13
202-415-2884 (mobile)
513-984-9257 (home)
Permanent e-mail = vww@post.harvard.edu
www.soteni.org
3/11
Sing Along at Ginny Frazer's / Steve Shoemaker's:
Bring songbooks, food or drink to share as we celebrate Women’s Herstory Month thru Song at Steve & Ginny’s 1539 Glen Parker Avenue (Off Hamilton Ave. in Northside). Potluck at 7:00, singing starts at 7:30 or so. Please RSVP or call 513-541-5361.
(This is my type of thing. Unfortunately, I'll be in Denver visiting my daughter! ellen)
2/18
Good Odd Jobs Man!
Philippino American new arrival. LIves Clifton. Transportation by bus. $8/hr. Experienced housepainter, carpenter, cleaning, etc. etc. A good man. ellen
Noli Tobias 861 0933
3/20 Cincinnatian and Muslim American leader Karen Dabdoub to join us at the Salon Table on Monday 3/20 to answer common stereotypes and dialogue with us. Be there!
4/8
SPAN Ohio to sponsor all day conference on
Single Payer Health Care for Ohioans
Sat. April 8 10 am to 4 pm
Holiday Inn City Center 175 E. Town St. (614-221-3281)
Columbus, OH
This is the group that Dr. Don Rucknagel supports, the doc. who gave us that great power point presentation a couple of weeks ago. Let's throw our energy behind this initiative. I am looking to form a car pool-drive up and back same day. Call me, ellen: 221 1289.
To register ($15 fee, includes lunch) see www.spanohio.org or email spanhealthcare@aol.com
SPAN Ohio tidbit: Myth: we have a good health care system as is.
Reality: 45 million people in the US have no coverage, including 1.3 million in Ohio and the numbers keep rising. Millions more have insurance that is inadequate, and all but the super rich worry about losing coverage. Meanwhile the cost of premiums, prescriptions, hospital stays and medical services continues to skyrocket. The increasing numbers of uninsured wait until they are seriously ill and then go to the Emergency Room where to treat them is hugely costly. This is paid for (when they cannot pay) by public money and by the hospitals raising rates for everyone's care... which in turn raises premiums, and as a result more and more employers stop offering their people health insurance. It's a snow balling disaster. The Single Payer initiative is a sane, affordable way to avert train wreak. Learn more at www.spanohio.org
2/25
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Thank you, JudyL
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Section Three: Articles
Contents:
Spy chips implanted in employees' bodies! Right here in Cinti.
- Next Major peace demonstration April 29
- Thurman Henderson on violence and misogyny in the Koran. Karen Dabdoub will attend Salon 3/20 to respond.
2/25
California based new subscriber Bill Willett sends this hair raising article about Spy Chips
Will job desperate Americans consent to Big Brother? ellen
http://www.spychips.com/press-releases/us-employees-verichipped.html
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
February 9, 2006
TWO U.S. EMPLOYEES INJECTED WITH RFID MICROCHIPS AT COMPANY REQUEST
Government Contractor Adopts Controversial VeriChip Implant in WorkplaceCincinnati video surveillance company CityWatcher.com now requires employees to use VeriChip human implantable microchips to enter a secure data center, Network Administrator Khary Williams told Liz McIntyre by phone yesterday. McIntyre, co-author of "Spychips: How Major Corporations and Government Plan to Track Your Every Move with RFID," contacted CityWatcher after it announced it had integrated the VeriChip VeriGuard product into its access control system.
The VeriChip is a glass encapsulated RFID tag that is injected into the flesh of the triceps area of the arm to uniquely number and identify individuals. The tag can be read through a person's clothing, silently and invisibly, by radio waves from a few inches away. The highly controversial device is being marketed as a way to access secure areas, link to medical records, and serve as a payment instrument when associated with a credit card.
According to Williams, a local doctor has already implanted two of CityWatcher's employees with the VeriChip devices. "I will eventually" receive an implant, too, he added. In the meantime, Williams accesses the data center with a VeriChip implant housed in a heart-shaped plastic casing that hangs from his keychain. He told McIntyre he had no qualms about undergoing the implantation procedure himself, and said he would receive an implant as soon as time permits.
"It worries us that a government contractor that specializes in surveillance projects would be the first to publicly incorporate this technology in the workplace," said McIntyre. CityWatcher provides video surveillance, monitoring and video storage for government and businesses, with cameras set up on public streets throughout Cincinatti.
The company hopes the VeriChip will beef up its proximity or "prox" card security system that controls access to the room where the video footage is stored, said Gary Retherford of Six Sigma Security, Inc., the company that provided the VeriChip technology. "The prox card is a system that can be compromised," said Retherford, referring to the card's well-known vulnerability to hackers. He explained that chipping employees "was a move to increase the layer of security....It was attractive because it could be integrated with the existing system."
Ironically, implantable tags may not provide CityWatcher with that additional safety, after all. Last month security researcher Jonathan Westhues demonstrated how the VeriChip can be skimmed and cloned by a hacker, who could theoretically duplicate an individual's VeriChip implant to access a secure area. Westhues, author of a chapter titled "Hacking the Prox Card" for Simson Garfinkel's recent "RFID: Applications, Security, and Privacy," said the VeriChip "is not good for anything" and has absolutely no security.
"No one I spoke with at Six Sigma Security or at CityWatcher knew that the VeriChip had been hacked," McIntyre observed. "They were also surprised to hear of VeriChip's downsides as a medical device. It was clear they weren't aware of some of the controversy surrounding the implant."
Although CityWatcher reportedly does not require its employees to take an implant to keep their jobs, Katherine Albrecht, "Spychips" co-author and outspoken critic of the VeriChip, says the chipping sets an unsettling precedent. "It's wrong to link a person's paycheck with getting an implant," she said. "Once people begin 'voluntarily' getting chipped to perform their job duties, it won't be long before pressure gets applied to those who refuse."
Albrecht predicts that news of the security flaws will combine with public squeamishness to make the VeriChip a hard product to sell, however. "Obviously, nobody wants their employer coming at them with a giant hypodermic needle. But when people realize it takes a scalpel and surgery to remove the device if it gets hacked, they'll really think twice," she said. "An implant is disgusting enough going in, but getting it out again is a bloody mess."
Albrecht and McIntyre, who are Christians, also have religious concerns about RFID chip implants. In their latest book, "The Spychips Threat: Why Christians Should Resist RFID and Electronic Surveillance," the pair explain how plans by global corporations and government entities to broadly deploy RFID could usher in a world that bears a striking resemblance to the one predicted in Revelation, the last book of the Bible.
According to Revelation, at some future point people will not be able to buy or sell unless they are numbered and bear a mark on their hand or forehead.
"While Christians have theological reasons to reject being uniquely numbered, this is an issue that should concern anyone who values privacy and civil liberties," said Albrecht. "The VeriChip is Big Brother technology being unscrupulously marketed by a company that would like to put a chip in every one of us. It has no place on free American soil."
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ABOUT THE BOOKS
"Spychips: How Major Corporations and Government Plan to Track your Every Move with RFID" (Nelson Current) was released in October 2005. Already in its fifth printing, "Spychips" is the winner of the Lysander Spooner Award for Advancing the Literature of Liberty and has received wide critical acclaim. Authored by Harvard doctoral researcher Katherine Albrecht and former bank examiner Liz McIntyre, the book is meticulously researched, drawing on patent documents, corporate source materials, conference proceedings, and firsthand interviews to paint a convincing -- and frightening -- picture of the threat posed by RFID.
Despite its hundreds of footnotes and academic-level accuracy, the book remains lively and readable according to critics, who have called it a "techno-thriller" and "a masterpiece of technocriticism."
Read the foreword by Wired technology commentator and best-selling author Bruce Sterling.
"The Spychips Threat: Why Christians Should Resist RFID and Electronic Surveillance" (Nelson Current, January 31, 2006) is a paperback version of the original book that addresses Christian concerns associated with the technology.
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2/18
Next Major Peace Demonstration in D.C.
April 29
This may be a good announcement for the weekly. Can¹t wait to hear about the discussion tonight!
David Rosenberg
PEACE, JUSTICE, FREEDOM, THE EARTH: JOINING THEM ON APRIL 29
For the first time, an important part of the environmental movement and an important part of the antiwar movement, as well as the National Organization for Women and others, are joining to bring an end to "global scorching" and the Iraq War as well as to end attacks on the Constitution and on the poor and the middle class by the present US government.
This broad coalition is calling for a major march in New York City on April 29.
Says the call to this march:
· No more never-ending oil wars!
· Protect our civil liberties & immigrant rights, and end illegal spying, government corruption and the subversion of our democracy.
· Rebuild our communities, starting with the Gulf Coast. Stop corporate subsidies and tax cuts for the wealthy while ignoring our basic needs.
· Act quickly to address the climate crisis and the accelerating destruction of our environment.
Among the initiating groups are ---
United for Peace and Justice
NOW
Rainbow/PUSH Coalition
US Labor Against the War
Friends of the Earth
Climate Crisis Coalition
Peoples Hurricane Relief Fund
Readers of The Shalom Report will be especially interested to know that UPJ has decided to refuse any further alliances with "ANSWER" in organizing any demonstrations, etc.
The UPJ steering committee did this by a two-thirds majority, out of its experience both of deep political differences between ANSWER & UPJ in organizing the antiwar actions last September, and of serious failures by ANSWER to adhere to and carry out commitments the two groups had agreed to beforehand.
You may recall that The Shalom Center was so indignant about the involvement of the bitterly anti-Israel ANSWER in the September 24 antiwar rally that we held an independent pro-peace Shabbat service during the rally time of that weekend,and then took part in other aspects of the weekend when ANSWER had no role.
Now we can take whole-hearted part, especially since our other concerns Oil, Global Scorching, the US Constitution are also on the agenda.
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The Climate Crisis Coalition has just installed a Climate Crisis News Engine on its website (www.climatecrisiscoalition.org). Each morning from its various ³newsfeeds,² CCC identifies a dozen or so stories to post on the site. They get rotated on the home page. (To see all the stories click Climate Crisis News Engine
http://www.climatecrisiscoalition.org/climatenews/
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Shalom, Arthur
Rabbi Arthur Waskow, director
The Shalom Center www.shalomctr.org voices a new prophetic agenda in Jewish, multireligious, and American life. To receive the weekly on-line Shalom Report, click on --
http://www.shalomctr.org/subscribe
2/25 My friend and neighbor for 30 years, Thurman Henderson, an engineering prof. at U.C. sent in this thoughtful piece on his reading of the Koran. He is a man of unimpeachable intelligence and sincerity. I asked Muslim friend (also unimpeachable intelligence and sincerity) Karen Dabdoub to comment; she said she'd rather come to the salon in person, as it would take a very long piece to rebut all his stereotypes of Muslims. Here is Thurman's piece:
Ellen,
Yes, please feel free to use my comments on the Koran as you may choose. I am a very strong believer in respect and unencumbered freedom for all religions, but I find the Koran very troubling.
Certainly one can cherry pick verses out of the Koran which would coincide relatively well with the perspective of peace-loving people, such as "Fight for the sake of God those that fight against you but do not attack them first. God does not love aggressors." Also the Koran is replete with commands to give alms, protect the orphan and be kind to travelers. However the general tenor is very violent. For example the above cherry-picked verse is immediately followed by, "Slay them wherever you find them." Also the Koran does speak of mandated beheadings and "heads will roll"--which may explain some of the recent activity in Iraq. Another passage says "Do not kill yourself," which appears to contradict the notion of suicide bombings. Go figure?
Certainly it can be correctly asserted that our "Old" or Jewish Testament records some violence as well; but it is nothing like the "Sword of Islam" (which I now better understand). Of course much terrible mischief has also been done in the name of Christianity, but the "New" or Christian Testament itself advocates essentialy a pacifist outlook, e.g. "If one strikes you on one cheek, offer the other," etc. Never the less, there were persons in the pre Civil War South, for example, who maintained that the New Testament condoned slavery, because one of Paul's writings admonished believing Greek slaves to be conscientious to their masters [that they may be won] and masters to be kind to their slaves. (Paul was already being arrested and imprisoned for stirring up the locals in the world which existed, in preaching monothesism and messianic Judaism, eventually dubbed "Christianity" by others). He was not advocating slavery.
However the Koran speaks perhaps a hundred times or more on the assumption that Muslims will naturally have slaves. Also the male owner may freely have sex with his slave females, although he should otherwise be true to his wives, up to four. (Mohammed, I read, had more, including a 6 year old, where the marriage was not consummated until she was at the ripe old age of 9. Is this pedophelia?)
Koranic law (as I have read in the Koran) includes vast details on legal swearing (two women equal one man if two men are not available), divorce, estates, etc. which strongly discriminate against women. Women can even be selectively executed; a woman who is found unchaste can be locked in a house until she dies for example. The Koran also speaks about "dark eyed" and "high breasted" virgins [other names are used] in Paradise for men. (I didn't find the often mentioned quantity of 40). The Koran also speaks against gambling and drinking but indicates that much drinking and sex will be available in Paradise for men. Perhaps this explains the eagerness of the Muslim extremists to expedite the trip.
However after reading and studying the Koran I wonder if in fact the "extremists" are really those many good and peacable Muslims whom we have been fortunate to know. I continue to have great respect for responsible people of all the great religons, including Buddhists and Hindus, but judging from its holy book, Islam appears to me to be unique in its advocacy of many, many things which the more enlightened of both East and West should find abhorrant.
I have also read two more books on Islam, one by a non-Muslim and one by a practicing Muslim (for balance): Robert Payne, "The History of Islam" and Yahiya Emerick, "Understanding Islam." I would recommend both and would be happy to lend them to anyone who may wish to read them.
Regards,
Thurman
P.S. Thanks for your follow-up email on the Muslim issue. It is ahsolutely wonderful that the "Muslim Mothers Against Violence" has been formed locally. As Zeinab Schwen notes, all Muslims are indeed [fortunately] not the same; but I am by nature a researcher (of some established credibility as a scholar in my field--which is not religion) who has been taught to go to original written sources. When I do so in this case, I find that if the religion is defined by its holy book, then Islam appears to be rather violent in its orthodoxy, in spite of what the well meaning Zeinab Schwen prolaims. Advocating removal of heads, cutting off hands and removing an arm and a leg from opposite sides of others is recorded in the Koran (in specific circumstances) as well as special directed violence to women. We have also had things such a the Spanish inquisition in the name of the Roman Catholic Church, but they were Christians in name only because such behavior already contradicted their own holy book. Now if a Muslim rejects the written violent words of his holy book, does that by similar argument make him an actual non-Muslim? I am in favor of reformed Islam, and respect should be accorded civilized behavior; however, "moderate" Muslims should deal with the facts as we deal with our understanding and toleration toward them.
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and Karen's email:
Hi Ellen, Thanks for sending me the article and asking for my input. I
would rather not respond in writing as it would take volumes to respond
to all his negative stereotypes. Unfortunately, he really comes across
as someone with an agenda, not an open mind. I would enjoy attending one
of your Monday evening programs and interacting with people. It will
have to be post March 4 though due to a very full schedule until then.
Would March 20 work for you?
....
In Peace, Karen
Karen J. Dabdoub
Director, Cincinnati Office
CAIR-Ohio
10999 Reed Hartman Hwy.
Suite 223
Cincinnati, OH 45242
513-281-8200
513-281-8666-Fax
CAIR is America's largest Islamic civil liberties group. Our mission is
to enhance understanding of Islam, encourage dialogue, protect civil
liberties, empower American Muslims, and build coalitions that promote
justice and mutual understanding.
4/29
Next Major Peace Demonstration in D.C.
April 29
PEACE, JUSTICE, FREEDOM, THE EARTH: JOINING THEM ON APRIL 29
For the first time, an important part of the environmental movement and an important part of the antiwar movement, as well as the National Organization for Women and others, are joining to bring an end to "global scorching" and the Iraq War as well as to end attacks on the Constitution and on the poor and the middle class by the present US government.
This broad coalition is calling for a major march in New York City on April 29.
Says the call to this march:
· No more never-ending oil wars!
· Protect our civil liberties & immigrant rights, and end illegal spying, government corruption and the subversion of our democracy.
· Rebuild our communities, starting with the Gulf Coast. Stop corporate subsidies and tax cuts for the wealthy while ignoring our basic needs.
· Act quickly to address the climate crisis and the accelerating destruction of our environment.
Among the initiating groups are ---
United for Peace and Justice
NOW
Rainbow/PUSH Coalition
US Labor Against the War
Friends of the Earth
Climate Crisis Coalition
Peoples Hurricane Relief Fund
Readers of The Shalom Report will be especially interested to know that UPJ has decided to refuse any further alliances with "ANSWER" in organizing any demonstrations, etc.
The UPJ steering committee did this by a two-thirds majority, out of its experience both of deep political differences between ANSWER & UPJ in organizing the antiwar actions last September, and of serious failures by ANSWER to adhere to and carry out commitments the two groups had agreed to beforehand.
You may recall that The Shalom Center was so indignant about the involvement of the bitterly anti-Israel ANSWER in the September 24 antiwar rally that we held an independent pro-peace Shabbat service during the rally time of that weekend,and then took part in other aspects of the weekend when ANSWER had no role.
Now we can take whole-hearted part, especially since our other concerns Oil, Global Scorching, the US Constitution are also on the agenda.
###################
The Climate Crisis Coalition has just installed a Climate Crisis News Engine on its website (www.climatecrisiscoalition.org). Each morning from its various ³newsfeeds,² CCC identifies a dozen or so stories to post on the site. They get rotated on the home page. (To see all the stories click Climate Crisis News Engine
http://www.climatecrisiscoalition.org/climatenews/
###########
Shalom, Arthur
Rabbi Arthur Waskow, director
The Shalom Center www.shalomctr.org voices a new prophetic agenda in Jewish, multireligious, and American life. To receive the weekly on-line Shalom Report, click on --
http://www.shalomctr.org/subscribe
Section Four: Books, Reviews, Magazines
Spencer: I was in college, a prof. recommended ³Who gets what, how, why² Harold Lasswell. I recommend everybody read this tiny book. The bible in a free market economy. How money influences decisions. Fantastic little book. Easy read.
Professor Evan Bukey is a historian
with international recognition as an authority on Hitler.
This is his original book review
to which Jeanette responds passionately below:
Goetz, Aly, HITLERS VOLKSSTAAT (Frankfurt/Main: Fischer Verlag, 2005).
This book by one of the foremost authorities on the Holocaust compels
readers to rethink accepted wisom about the Third Reich and Hitler's war
on the Jews. Based on years of intensive archival research and
statistical analysis, it reaches two startling conclusions: 1)The
German war effort was financed largely by forced savings and heavy
corporate taxes, not unlike those imposed by the British and Americans.
German big business reaped profits, but not to the degree previously
thought. The ruthless exploitation of France, Belgium and other conquered
countries, needless to say, was also essential to keep the tanks rolling.
2) The massive theft of Jewish assets ranging from priceless works of art
seized by wealthy families to teeth extracted from corpses at Auschwitz
enabled the Nazi regime to underwrite a highly successful "welfare state"
until the end of the war. In 1945, for example, the defeated Germans
and Austrians were healthier and better fed than the victorious British. (emphasis added ellen)
This book should appear in English translation sometime this year. (Prof. of History) Evan Bukey, WWHS 1958Jeanette writes in response:
..............
"...enabled the Nazi regime to underwrite a highly successful "welfare state"
until the end of the war. In 1945, for example, the defeated Germansand Austrians were healthier and better fed than the victorious British. ...."
Ellen, really, this sort of statement is indefensible as evidence that Germans and Austrians were the beneficiaries of some 'welfare state' under the Nazi regime. It totally overlooks the severe austerity and energetic creativity that went into those peoples' need to survive. The existence of the word 'ersatz' was a by-word in German/Austrian life during the war. The word means, of course, substitutes. They were yet broadly knowledgeable in, 'use it up, wear it out, make it do, and substitute', with 'do without' coming a distant fifth rather than fourth.
Like the Swedes, who actually came through the war in the best shape of all, the people were focused on extremely tight use of resources and precision attention to keeping their families' needs provided. I have in fact been writing to many Swedish research and civic libraries to try to locate some account of the resource management that kept Sweden afloat inspite of severe wartime shortages and embargoes. Their strategies would be extremely appropriate to our area should we face Peak Oil based on the agroforestry books I've been reading. The Swedes were led by their Minister of Forestry, at the time, who had an encyclopedic knowledge base of the potential uses of timber to provide nearly all their needs, from transport fuels to vegetarian hamburger (wood yeast-torula). He led conversions of whole industries to keep going, and Swedes were very adept at pulling together, instead of divisiveness.
As for the Germans, they had just immediately come through the most horrendous inflation and deflation as a result of the swindles at Versailles and subsequent impositions by the 'victors' in WWI. They had as a result developed a resourcefulness that served as a solid base when times went bad again. By contrast, the British and French had no such foundation, nor in the case of the French, incentive, since their efforts would have supported their enemy as well as themselves. Better to turn limp, not to mention their internal division.
The book is a disappointment already, based on its poor logic.
Jeanette Raichyk
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To which Evan Bukey responds:
Wow! Your subscriber needs to do some serious reading. Aly is by no means
a right winger, quite the opposite. His most famous English-language book
explains in terrifying detail how the "Architects of Annihilation" did
not come from petty-bourgeois homes or suffer abuse at the hands of nasty
parents. They were the "best and the brightest" of their generation,
graduates of Germany's top universities, men and women who became the
social engineers of genocide. BTW, the Swedes and Swiss did have
to manage their resources very carefully between 1939 and 1945;
nevertheless they profited enormously by supplying Hitler's war machine.
What does your subscriber mean by the "swindles of Versailles?" No
reputable German historian would accept that thoroughly discredited
revisionist notion.
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And Jeanette responds to h im as follows:
Ah yes, the politically correct version in contemporary fashion. We all
know that historians go in cycles, swinging like pendulums. The heroes of
one fashion become the targets in the next round of fashion, to be followed
by another round with the return of new discoveries of older merits.
Perhaps we need a Latvian or Lithuanian historian to set this issue in
perspective, since their adherence to current political correctness is less
likely.
Further, since this is the sole point of contention, it remains to be noted
that the structure of the argument for ersatz strategies as an entrenched
fact of life stands uncontested, and supports the validity of the
life-training in coping with extreme economic upheaval. The source for the
Swedish history in particular was a British permaculturist whose focus was
agro-forestry, the source of Swedish resilience.
When you're working on strategies for survival, the fashions of political
correctness are a transparent impediment. What worked and why/how provide
their own independent validation, free of pc fashions, strictly engineering.
Jeanette
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