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Section One: Table Notes
At the Table on Monday, ____1/16/06___: Diane Fishbein, Nancy Dawley, Shari Able, Marty Harrington, Caeli Good, Adrienne Cooper, Jenny Edwards, Steve Sunderland, ChAD Benjamine Potter, Mira rodwan, Marvin Kraus, Gerry Kraus, Mike Murphy, Judy Cirillo, Bob Park, Dan Hershey, Ellen Bierhorst, Catherine Barrett. Mamie Neal, Spencer Konicov.
[Note from Ellen: forgive me, don¹t have time to edit and clean up the table notes this week. Full day. ]
Topics Nominated:
Salon Button to be printed up, $1.50 each.
Catherine Barrett, ... State of Ohio House rep.
Judy: increase minimum wage in Ohio, 4.25 / hr. Fed 5.15/hr. Sign petition.
Diane: NY times article Sunday about that.
Bob: petition for single payor healthcare. ULniversal health care system like most countries.
Steve: in today¹s NYTimes re. Ohio. Blackwell ³pastors for patriotism² to make a slogan ³ohio for Jesus². ³Under one tent² opposed to this. www.underonetent.org. just formed. Chilling. The new theocracy.
Mike: poem. Iraq Peak Oil
Dan: report on Right Wing. in the last two months the right wing has done well, Dems are in a slump. Iraq war is on back burner. Media taken if off the ³front page². Wiretapping story switched into a discussion of the morality of the NY Times and all the anti bush media. .. Justice Alito campaign; people feel the dems did poorly on that committee.
Abramoff lobbiest scandal got turned around, ³Everyone does it so who cares.² INvestigation of Carl rove being kept quiet. ... Iran; right wingers , destabilize the whole middle east. next stage is Iran.
Bush will not get out of Iraq; keep troops there, keep eye on Iran. Iran has huge oil reserves, so the neo cons won¹t give it up.
Meanwhile the Dems are off message; weak. Jerry Springer has been on family issues, ... off message also.
Catherine: Heimlich is taking his name off the race for lt. gov. to stay in the co. commission.
Chad Benjamin: Iran has the fifth greatest oil reserves, 42% depleated, Iraq 20% depleated.
Steve: Bill Bennett coming here Thursday Jan 26 at UC. March at 6 pm in front of TUC. Recommended genocide of blacks to control crime.
Topics:
Response to Dan
Discussion:
The Button:
Gerry: 3² buttons, 25 for $35. Lloyd Hous SALON BLACK ON YELLOW
RESPONSE TO DAN¹S REPORT
Gerry: Cong. Muertha is adamant about getting the troops out of Iraq this year. Dan Rather, ³How come other Dems are not supporting you in this?² Muertha said, ³Too Scared.² I found that discouraging.
Mike: What is the message for dems to be ³on²? If the Dems go farther they will be seen as radicals.
Steve: I think the news is more and less depressing. Bush said he would not impliment a torture ammendment that McCain wants to be passed. That is scary!
We are coming out of the holidays, spy thing is going to be brought up, the Abramoff thing will come up, there will be a l ot of bad heat on the Republicans. The Reps. will not be able to put the genie back into the ottle.
Bob: The Reps. are pathetic. The Reps are not
Catherine: I was in DC to talk ... now working on fed. budget. I am hearing scandals and the deficit. So huge now, and president blaming Katrina. Really it is corruption, and Abramoff is going to start talking. When in the state of Ohio senate he did the same things and no one challenged him. Would threaten each new lobbyist. ³I¹ll kill anything on the floor unless you pay me.² He will sing to the court. Corruption ... murders of the casion guys in Fla. I went to the Dems and the Republicans.
Medicaid for the states is being cut. MRDD cuts. Crisis in health care..biggest hit on the seniors. Hospital care. Used to pick up some of that through Medicaid, but that is being cut. So more and more seniors are going to be out of hospitals who should be there.
MIra: Sierra club is very concerned about Alito getting in.
Nancy: we need a march on Washington.
Jenny : we loook at nat¹l politics every day but sometimes we ignore local politics. I am a Democrat ... if I only know what I read in the public media. That is ³paid for². I like to reaed the Weekly and Worley Rodehaver¹s Northsider, etc. ... Beware of the behind the scenes shadow gov¹t. So get involved in your party at the local party. We need transparency in gov¹t.
Dan: what would the democrats stand for? Re. the republicans, they want you to pay attention to what they say not to what they do. They are not worried about deficits because it gives justification to cut social programs. The Dems have not learned that it is important to make swift response to charges laid down by the Republicans. It becomes generally believed over time if not contradicted. Dems do not have their act together.
Caeli: yes, their agenda is to dismantle big government.
Marvin: either mass aor NH has a proposed law that you must provide health insur if more than 10,000 employees. Designed to ³get² Walmart. Already passed it in Maryland.
Steve: Jack Muertha is now being ³swift boated², his decorqations being challenged by the far right, and there is no Dem standing up and saying, ³This is just what happened to John Kerry.² Where can we establish a beachead. They used Katrina to ³show² that it is churches who should provide social services, not gov¹t.
Judy: maybe we shouldn¹t respond to everything the Reps. say. Distracting.
Gerry maybe rfesurect Howard Dean.
CATHERINE BARRETT
Catherine: seeking the state senate seat Mallory left. I am tgerm limited after 8 years as an Oh rep. The Democrat Senators appointed Kearney, not Yates, Reece, PLepper, and myself. They decided on Kearney, the wealthy owner of the Cinti Herald newspaper. Kearney said he would fund the caucus. So they appointed him. He is not even a democrat, but is an Independent. He confesses he is an ind. because of the newsplaper, but we have learned that prior to being an Ind. he was a Republican. Now the Caucus is finding out.
Iv¹ve been a Dem over 40 yrs. Lincoln Hts. Working in politics since ch ildhood. Precinct exec in Colerain Township. Forest Park, that party. Precinct exec. Served on Warner Cable Board and )other boards). Council in Œ87. In Œ91 vice mayor of Forest Park. Then Mayor in Œ93. Until Œ97. Mallory asked me to move to cinti. to run for his house seat. Hammond North in College Hill. Œ97. Ran for his seat in Œ98. Elected 3 times fr Forest Park, 4 times in this house seat. I am electable. My opponent said he would have to raise 500,000 to win. I don¹t need that much. I run a grass roots campaign. POst cards. Newsletters. I will win ta.
When I first moved to Forest Pk in Œ80 we were a bedroom community. We brought in forest fair mall. We brought in businesses. We developed land. We brought in 25,000 jobs while I was there. Apt. building complexes. I worked GE as financial analyst until Œ92. (I am 64 years old.) I believe in working in the community. I did mayor¹s court for 6 years. Had to take law classes. I know law.
In Cols. I have sponsored over 50 bills. The Republicans have been in the majority. I get my bills passed even so! Cervical ca. bill. ... Bill that you can¹t talk on cell phone and drive. ... bill that auto tags every two years rather than every year. ... Sr. citizens in assisted living, the state pays for their medicare. ... Am proposing a bill now re. the auto industry; ask Fed. congress to bail out .
Mike I don¹t like the idea of bailing out auto makers who won¹t make gas efficient cars.
Catherine we have a lot of auto workers; we need to stop the bleeding. Jobs.
Marty I don¹t understand why the auto cos. are having trouble. They are always against health care ... I hear that the price of cars is $2,000 per car for health insurance. Why don¹t they support national health coverage.
Catherine (about how a co. negotiates for levels of reimbursement to dr. services.)
Bob Why doesn¹t GM support universal health care?
Catherine what I hear: the GM health care plan they negotiate with the Insur. cos. ... The government, the cong. do not want single payor health care.
Why isn¹t thethe dem party promoting health .?
Spencer It¹s a legacy. What bankrupted GM is all the insurance jpaying out. Today there are more US brand cars being made in Canada because they have ujiversal health care. It makes sense for them to support universal.
Cath: insurance cos. is the largest lobby in D.C.
Caeli they are supporting ³individual choice² now. Getting it privately instead of through the employer.
Cath: privitization of soc sec. is dead.
Marvin I had to get a Rx today. Antibiotic and pain killer. Walgreens. I have a golden buckeye card . Med. cost $9.15. Who do I h ave to thank? The state of Ohio is providing me Rx medicine at this low price. I didn¹t have to pay $35 extra to Medicare because I have this buckeye card. Why isn¹t this being publicized. ?
My question is, how is it that the state of OH is doing this?
Cath: we also have Ohio Rx plan. We pay for that through an insur. co. INdividuals who are uninsured can buy into that plan if y ou are over a certain age. 65. They are pushing Medicare Part D.
Marvin
Cath they want this country to become just the Haves and the HaveNots. Immigrants paid low wages. ... If they get sick, they go to the ER and the tax payers have to pay.
A conservative group pushing no deductions from the pay check; going to run the gov¹t with sales tax. Get rid of State, local and IRS tax. Run the country on this Super Sales Tax. They say that is the way it is in Canada.
Spencer: it is 10.2% in Canada. That is for health care.
Catherine: no theirs is for everything.
Marvin: take a message to Columbus that we want Socialized medicine for Ohio.
Bob: in socialized med. all docs. work for the state. Single payor universal healthcare is about where the money comes from. to pay the medical care.
Judy: in europe, this is what is done. You may pay 40% of your income in tax but it covers everything.
Nancy: would you trust Geo Bush and the Rep. Congress to manage this tax?
Catherine no.
Mira: 1: I think we are ready to move beyond single payor to socialized med. Improve on Canada¹s system. 2: We need to discuss how many workers are not getting their pensions.
Mike: you mentioned about auto workers. but if they industry is doing wrong things, why bail them out. Tell them they have to change their policies, e.g. gas efficiency. Or else we¹ll help the workers buy you out and run it themselves. Economic Democracy.
Cath: I listen do dems and liberals. L. LaRouche. Building up the infrastructure; our industrial . We have old housing stock. We need to go community by community, block by block, hire people to rehab those housing areas. Reduce crime and poverty. ... we have to take pride in our neighborhoods. ... that¹s what Rooseveldt did. We need to build mass transit. ... We don¹t have mass transit to get to NE corridor.
Chad Benjamin: solar power. going to be 11 billion industry by 2010. Ohio could lead the country in this because of its strong industrial history. So push that. PV Cells.
Cath: we looked at that. We are building6 ethanol plants in Ohio. Biodeisel. We have to understand global warming. Today, 60 degrees on Jan 16! Hurricanes, all the way into November now.
Martin Luther King Jr. Day
Ellen: MLK Chorale; need to have a monthly all city interracial gospel sing. How can we m ake that happen.
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David: end of Terry Grosse, author wrote aabout MLK. ... this day is suddenly for old people. Most people weren¹t born during the civil rights strugglel. People now take for granted that we are all equal under the law. Obviously still race and class problems. We have to go byond what Martin started. ...fulfill the dream.
Mike: ... MLK said America was the greatest terrorist in the world. Still right. ... see our books on the shelf ³I was an economic hit man². ... Chilean president just elected, tortured in the past by CIA trained police. ... MLK was brave, brilliant, deep. Need to remember his many messages. We have allowed those to be co opted. The King family is about to be co opted, the King Center because of money problems.
Remember his messages; act on them. Give him credit.
Chad: at the token 21 year old in the group, yes, we do take MLK for granted. We are listening. ... I was uneasy at the songs sung today. I felt uneasy at the song that says ³until the killing of black men...as important as the killing of white men...² I do mourn the same.
Bob: the memory of MLK has been corrupted. Is presented as non violence. That was a tactical decision they made because they were out gunned. He understood there were people around the world fighting violently with tfor their rights. He supported them.
Marvin: have to read the third book about MLK
Caeli: I heard Coretta Scott King at our mutual alma mater. Spoke about economic justice. Urged us all to rise up together; can¹t leave some behind.
Marty: ...king talked of three kinds of evil; racism, poverty, and violence. We have gotten stuck looking only at the racism. Today the bishop made the point about violence in our communities. ... the Poverty thing.
Catherine: we designated Dec 1 as RosA PARKS DAY. governor signed it. She is the one swho inspired MLK. It took her being tired of being sick and tired. that caused the boycott of the busses. Looking today at how far that movement has come. Yet we don¹t have the youth connected... they don¹t know They were able to break the bus co. Forced the bus co to allow blacks to sit anywhere on the busses. ... We need someone to step up. King brought the strategy. What we could do when we leave here, gather our thoughts, ask What can we do in the city to make another movement to address some of these issues.
If we can bring in the youth. Teach the youth. You don¹t have to fight violence with violence. What we want for our city in the future. We all have a stake in this. Bring the outh to the table. Each one teach one. They will bring their ideas.
Hugs to all,
Ellen
Section Two: Announcements
1/25/06
Good News! Original Salonista, fabulous photo artist Gregory Thorp Slide Show
Wednesday 1/25, at 7 pm.
Lloyd House.
Soul nourishment ! I promise. ellen
1/27; 2/1
Salonista Yvonne VanEijden, another world-class artist
Painting Exposition at the Weston Art Gallery, at the Aronoff
650 Walnut St. 45202
"In the Spaces We Talk"
Show Continues through March 26
Opening Reception Friday, Jan 27, 6-9 pm
Free.
Gallery Talk with Yvonne: Tuesday, Feb. 7, 7 pm, RSVP 977-4165
2/22
Alexander Teacher Erik Bendix back in town, offers lessons at the Lloyd House
Dear Cincinnati Alexander students and colleagues,
I've only been gone from Cincinnati since August, but it feels a lot
longer. I will be visiting Cincinnati for several days in February, and
will be available to give a small number of private lessons. Signing up for
them will have to be first-come, first-serve, and should be done by calling
up Ellen Bierhorst at 513-221-1289, or e-mailing her at
ellenbierhorst@lloydhouse.com. The lessons will be at her house (Lloyd
House) at 3901 Clifton, near the corner of Lafayette Ave. Please either
park behind the house or on Lafayette, and leave the parking spot in front
of the house for handicap access. Here are the times I'll be available:
Wednesday Feb. 8th..........9 am to 2 pm
Thursday Feb. 9th.............9 am to 2 pm
Friday Feb. 10th................9 am to 12 noon
Tuesday Feb. 21st............10 am to 1 pm
Wednesday Feb. 22nd.......12 noon to 3 pm
The lessons will be scheduled on the hour, and will cost $65 each. As I
look down the list of those I am sending this out to, I realize what a great
joy it would be to see you again. I am very much looking forward to it.
Best wishes, Erik Bendix
Weekly Drum Circle at the Lloyd House:
Hey Lloyd House Drumming Circle*!
(to be removed from the list see instructions at the end of this message).
Last week at our second weekly drumming circle we had a blast. Present and rumblin' were:
Pete Carrels, Layne, Ellen, David Dean, Les & Mary, Richard (friend of David's), Rich Barthwick, and Alicia Shamblin (prounced "aleeseeah".)
We had some yummy snacks (strawberries, chex, herbal tea), much appreciated. We did a go a round first giving name and just a couple words of intention/need/energy. Then we hit it. At nine we s topped and ate and drank and socialized for a while. BTW, feel free to bring wine or beer (but nothing illegal), any kind of consumables.
This Saturday Paul Ravenscraft will be back with us, and it is his turn to lead the evening. Come find out what will happen!
Please Note this: if you have an email list of drumming people (or dance people, or chant people or instrumental improv. people ... folks who would love this) would you please send this announcement to them and ...
If you are getting this announcement SECOND HAND from a friend, not from me, Ellen, would you PLEASE send me an email
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OK, so get yourself here tomorrow, and any/every Saturday night. Let's build a momentum. Keep happy during winter. Heal yourself.
Love and beats,
Ellen
Logistics: Lloyd House 3901 Clifton Avenue zip 45220, use mapquest.com if you don't know your way here. Park on Lafayette ave. after unloading drums. Do NOT block the driveway. Remove shoes in foyer. Walk up rear stairs (pass the big front staircase) to third floor. Bring snacks or drinks if you like. Bring love and good vibes, any musical instruments or any kind, etc. etc. All children welcome.
JanuaryCEI (Cincinnati Earth Institute) has numerous discussion courses starting this month. At the EarthSpirit Rising Conference you expressed interest in one or more courses. Click the following link to review the potential course opportunities open to the public. I hope you¹ll be able to participate in one of them. http://cinciearth.org/html/schedule.html
CEI to have Globalization Study Course Starting Soon
Happy new year!
John Hoff
Cincinnati Earth Institute
Vlasta Returning:
1/22
Subject: Greetings from Adriatic
Dear Ellen:P.S. I will be back on Monday, January 23 and hope to attend the regular salon dinner (I think my plane arrives at 3 pm).
Since I decided to prolong my stay in Croatia till January 23, 2006. At the moment I am enjoying my stay at the sunny Adriatic sea recovering from 8 months of insomnia. Coming to Europe cured it. Being at the place of my old roots alos helped.
Send my regards to Lloyd salon crew and my best wishes for a happy and sucessful 2006.
Love,
Vlasta
Section Three: Articles
1/22 Cincinnati Muslim Organizer/Leader Karen Dabdoub: a solicited letter to the Salon Weekly. This letter was prompted by a discussion a few weeks ago at the table. Constance Rice said on TV that she thought Muslims were to blame for not speaking out strongly and often to say that they did not endorse violence. Thanks Karen! ellen
HOW DO I FEEL WHEN I HEAR PEOPLE SAY THAT MUSLIMS DON¹T SPEAK OUT AGAINST TERRORISM?
It has been over four years since that awful day, 9-11-01 and still I hear it ³Muslims don¹t speak out against terrorism or violence². My first reaction is one of sadness that even though many Muslims in America have worked so hard for the past four years to get the word out there are still so many who haven¹t heard it. I wish they could visit a mosque or Islamic center and talk to the people there. I wish they could know just one Muslim, a neighbor or co-worker or classmate. I wish they could read the more than 50 pages of condemnations of terrorism that were issued by mainstream Muslim organizations after 9-11. I wish they could meet the 690,000 Muslims who have signed the ³Not in the name of Islam² petition that my organization, Council on American-Islamic Relations, has on our website. I wish they could talk to all the hundreds of Islamic leaders and scholars who signed the fatwa (religious ruling) against terrorism that was issued in 2005. I wish they could come to a meeting of Muslim Mothers Against Violence and see how concerned these mothers are about all violence in our world. I wish they could know the many verses in the Quran that speak of justice, and treating others with respect. The many verses that speak of the ³People of the Book² (Christians and Jews) with respect and tolerance, and the many verses that speak of Moses and Jesus with great love and respect.
My second reaction is that I know my Muslim community needs to work even harder to let America know that we American Muslims are part of the fabric of this country. That Muslims have been here since before Columbus. That we love this country for the many freedoms that it offers, not least of which is the freedom to practice our religion. That many of us (65-70%) were born and raised here and many of the rest are naturalized citizens. And that the Muslims of America have suffered a great deal since 9-11 even though we had nothing to do with the attack on our country and that we will be the ones to suffer the tremendous backlash if, God forbid, another attack were to happen.
I ask those of you whose interest has been piqued by what I have said, please step out of your comfort zone and see if you can meet a Muslim. It may surprise you to find out that we are normal human beings after all!
Karen Dabdoub
Karen J. Dabdoub
Director, Cincinnati Office
CAIR-Ohio
10999 Reed Hartman Hwy.
Suite 223
Cincinnati, OH 45242
513-281-8200
513-281-8666-Fax
CAIR is America¹s largest Islamic civil liberties group. Our mission is to enhance understanding of Islam, encourage dialogue, protect civil liberties, empower American Muslims, and build coalitions that promote justice and mutual understanding.
Section Four: Books, Reviews, Magazines
1/22 My Son Isaac Sher, a wide reader and expert on sci-fi and Japanese Animé sends this:
Let's see, some books to suggest:
"Guards! Guards!" by Terry Pratchett. The 8th "Discworld" novel, but in many ways this is one of the best of the series, and a good starting point for those who have never read Pratchett at all before. Originally a comedic take on fantasy novels (much as Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy did for Science Fiction), the discworld books have grown into something quite fantastic. Brilliant comedy mixed with real insight into the human condition, and instead of losing its edge as the series goes on, the books just keep getting better. "Guards! Guards!" introduces us to the Night Watch of the city of Ankh-Morpork, a giant sprawling city where laws generally take back seat to commerce and convenience. You'll also meet Watch Captain Samuel Vimes, a scarred and bitter man in charge of fools and incompetents -- and yet they will be the city's last hope.
DeathNote, by Tsukumi Ohba and Takeshi Obata. A Japanese manga translated into english. Don't be fooled by the medium -- this may be a comic book, but it's a very serious, very dark tale. This story asks the question: what would you do if you could decide who lives, and who dies? A young man getting ready to enter college, a model citizen and son of a police chief, is given that power. All he has to do is envision your face, and write your name down in this mysterious notebook -- and forty seconds later, you will drop dead of a heart attack. If you knew someone out there had this power over people, what would you do? A study of human behavior, and a cat-and-mouse chase between Killer and Detective, I highly recommend this.
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Here's the website I spoke about for the solar panels.
http://www.odod.state.oh.us/cdd/oee/elfgrant.htm
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