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At the table on Monday, 1/9/06_: Shari Able, Mike Murphy, Mira Rodwan, Gary Weiss, Marty Harrington, Gerry Kraus, Marvin Kraus, Ellen Bierhorst, Chad Benjamin, Amy Miller, Emily Spear, Janet Kalven, Steve Sunderland
Topics Nominated:
Mira On Northsider newsplaper front page Steve talking a out the Mosque bombing. And Chris Smitherman is writing a regular column for the Northsider.
Ellen: Grizzley Man.
Ariel Sharon, not brain dead.
Grizzley Man, documentary
Minimum Wage: Shari
Neighborhood Summit.. Feb 4, Sat, 8:30 to 3:30. Register www.investinneighborhoods.com
Charter Committee Annual Meeting Thursday 6:00
Mike: Peak Oil paper to pass around.
Gerry: I got an email today from a group in the West End or a coalition, ..opposing a suggested ³City Link². WhT IS THIS about? Apparently it is a big thing in the W. End. Take a large number of acres and put, concentrate several service agencies and transitional housing. Part of the gentrification of O.T.R. (Over the Rhine.)
Marvin: Diane Rehm. Today she was interviewing Geo McGovern, now 83. Wonderful. His life is just beginning! A caller... 11 years old, in school in Mass. in charge of sixth grade group for Nixon. He wanted to call in to appologize, he picked the wrong person. McGovern accepted his appology. 1972. ... And talked about Swift Boat vets. Said Kerry should have immediately come out and given the truth.
Shari US minimum wage is suggested to be $5.15. Ohio and Kansas only $4.15. Less than West Va! Write y our congresspeople. How you treat the most vulnerable people, the poorest people is important. It is a stigma to be at the bottom of the 50 states! Oregon, CA, and a few others¹ min. wage is higher than $5.15.
Gary: is the $4.15 in Ohio an effective higher rate than a dollar more in CA? Their cost of living is so much higher.
Gerry: maybe we should write our state legislators and the governor. It is an Ohio issue.
Amy: Tulane will open for second sem next wk. Campus had six feet of flooding. Not too bad. ... I was down there the Sat before it hit. Moving day. I was there two hrs. when they called for evacuation. I had no idea about the level of danger. I lost a lot of stuff. ...Tulane issued evacuation order a day before NO did. We drove out. No problem. ... most of the famous good restaurants say they are going to open. ... I am a writer; wanted a cool place.
Emily Columbus OH college of art and design. Freshman. Like it. Heavy work load. Up til 3 every night. Met Amy in second grade in Milford.
Met Chad Benj. working for the Yes on 3 (Article 12 repeal.)
Chad Benj: I thought Grizzley was supposed to be ³we should all go back and honor nature.²
Chad Benjamein: Saw Brokeback Mt. at Esquire. Wonderful. Two men kissing. Honesty was touching. Feelings of regret, longing, desire. Human principles brought forth with sensitivity.
Marty I liked that the movie was sensitive to the families that were also hurt, wives, children. I went with someone who hated it.
Chat B: long, but made sense at the end. 2 h rs 14 min.
Shari Elephant in the living room, no one talking.
Steve: ³Munich², movie.
Gerry: shooting, violent. gorry.
Steve Do we think violence brings peace by any means? Spielberg makes this point. The main character asks the questions. He could not endure eleven killings. It was about the killing of Israeli athletes at Olympics in 1972. A very important peace movie. Raised the issue of the Palestinians and Israelis. Is there any alternative to violence? Are we silly to believe that a peace stance is realistic? I left the movie shaken, complex questions raised about violence. As a peacemaker I feel I am on my way to being killed.
Gerry King, Ghandi, Lincoln... Even King¹s allies wanted to give up on non violence.
Steve He never wavered, always non violent. Last year I learned that many of those who went to Mississippi carried guns. I went, but never saw that.
Mike there was much violence. Police riots, race riots, ... Black Power movement as alternative to the King movement. Roger Fry Getting to Yes, peaceful practices should be widely used.
Steve Recital Thurs at 8 at Cohen Family Studio Theater, next to Corbett Aud., Mara Helmuth and Alan Bern; she has put my poem about Vietnam Vets .
Discussion:
Ellen on government and cooperation.
Mike: make this same speech there. We can settle on core values; come out of the closet as a caucus. Standing for certain principles.
E: have office of political notification
Gerry if it is paid for by the city it is already coopted.
Marty part of what this is, is getting information from the city. Are the minutes published somewhere? Are they on the internet?
G: council agenda, committee agendas are on the internet. You can access reports online as well. e.g. an issue to revise the law re. buss stop bench advertising. There is a report. You can get.
Steve we are one of the creative nodes in the city. ... if we brought ten people, ³we are going to look at the city². WE are a creative city.
Gerry this city link thing. Housing for drug addicts, ... services for poor people. Not on the West End Plan. It is the United Way promoting it.
Marty are we sure that this is going to be bad? Might be convenient to have everything in one place.
Marvin there are pros and cons. But all those with an interest should know about it, to inform the decision. We don¹t get good communication in this city.
Mike these are plans to manage poverty. Like in medicine, there is not def. of health, but plenty of illness. City looking to manage problems, rather than promote wellbeing. Ellen mentioned Porto Allegro. Makes you want to live there. Cuba, of course. A lo tech hospitable society. Perhaps if we could bring that to the summit ... not to manage poverty but to promote healthy neighborhoods.
Shari we want to be heard but we have no agenda.
Mira true, a lot of well meaning liberals seem think they to know what would help poor people. We have to not be so distant... Like Steve actually goes and works with kids and promotes peace concepts. ... Maurice McCracken lived in the neighborhoods of the people he was serving. Mutuality, give and take. ... We want something that will make an overall difference for the city. ... Peter Bloch has been saying that we have to take action.
Mike: Ellen talked about the Yes Magazine article. We could find examples of what we want. Frances M Lappe book on our shelves ... has idease. I¹ll look there...
Steve Isn¹t there a salon agenda? Better city through discussion, ... There are no other groups. How do we get our city ³above the water² ... I think this conference is a dog and pony show. The power groups aren¹t worked out yet. Kafkaeque.
Gerry: Laketa Cole is trying to get churches to get people to bring in their guns. Reduce the amount of guns in the city.
Janet if you had a ³bring in your gun² day at church, ask people, that¹s a good thing for people to do.
Steve:
Shari the brochure tells right up front ³cinti. neighborhoods learning from each other.² Sitting at this table we represent parts of these neighborhoods. ... want to be heard as the Monday Night Pot Luck people.
Marty I am totally new to this group but it seems to me what it is about is about generating ideas. Maybe what we could do is to figure out ways to disseminate these ideas further. LIke having an internet forum for discussing.
Mike: We should be guided by their agenda and plug in our ideas. Yes magazine is about good ideas ... I am sure they have strategy for the guns issue. ... Second agenda... you could overthrow a king. the important thing is to have a way to empower people. What is citizenship, what is power? Move the focus away from guns. Trade in guns for real empowerment.
Marvin This year¹s summit is to give opportunity for interface with other neighborhoods and with gov¹t... Mallory is going to be there all day long. One on one with city council. Learn what are the problems that people in the city are having?
Ellen: Salon, and also bring me up to speed about city
JANET: WRDC, affordable housing. Building comunity among the people who live there. Garfield Commons, a n abandoned school in Cumminsville. Got city mmoney to renovate it. Struggle. The average rental company doesn¹t have its heart in the right place. There is no decent housing company for low income housing. ... You have to screen the applicants well...j
Then we did Chase Commons, where Mira and I both live. Mixed income. diverse. Intergenerational. A few kids.
The idea behind it was to build a community, a core group before we did any bricks and mortar. there are 35 people at Chase commons living peacefully together. We are going condo now.
Steve: people don¹t know about this project.
Mira I signed up. I am a homeowner now.
Steve Enquirer yesterday did a good article yesterday on housing for aged in the city.
Janet So we started with the idea of building community. A core group of about 15 people who really care about building community. It works pretty well. One of the things that makes it work is to consciously work to get to know one another, build community.
Marvin What you said is so important. That is what the Summit is about. ... share different communities throughout the city. Here we have a Salon community. I have told council members they should have a pot luck. It is a wonderful way to share ideas. Table fellowship. A wonderful way to deal with problems. That is one thing this group has to share with the rest of the city. Share, talk, solve problems.
Steve we need a button, ³Salon pot luck for a peaceful and creative Cincinnati.² or ³Pot luck for peace². We represent a think tank for creativity in Cincinnati. The key is building community first. What is exciting about this group is the opportunity to teach and learn from each other. There is a lot of energy, a lot of wonderful stuff around this table.
Mira ... and we are all active in various ways.
P.S. On Monday, MLK Day, we will welcome Catherine Barrett, State Rep., and candidate for State Senate (Mallory's seat) to the table. We will also choose the text for our Salon Pot Luck Button that we will wear at public functions like the Neighborhood Summit. My nominations:
1)
"Ask Me About the
Lloyd House Pot Luck Salon"
2) "Ask Me About the
Lloyd HOuse Salon"
3) "Lloyd House Salon:
Fueling Cincinnati"
Hugs to all,
Ellen
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