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................................................... Section One: Table Notes ............................................................................ (Note: these notes were taken at the table and have NOT been approved or corrected by the speakers. Reader beware of inevitable misunderstandings and misrepresentations. E.B.)
At the table Wednesday 12/24/08
Marilyn Bakie, Kabir Bakie, Justin Jeffre, Don Rucknagel, Gwen Marshall, Ellen Bierhorst, Joan Friedland, Janet Kalven , Randall Ball, Mira Rodwan, Katsura Kuwahara,
Seated: Randall, Don. Standing: Ellen, Janet, Mira (with cracked elbow), Gwen, Katsura, Justin, Kabir, Joan. Photo by Marilyn.
Introductions: Joan has advanced degrees in health sciences and worked for NIOSH, Gwen is a Green Party activist, Don is a retired M.D. Now active with the Single Payer Action Network for Ohio, a group seeking to have a state run Medicare-like system to insure everyone in Ohio and fund it publically through a voter initiative process; Justin Jeffre a Green Party activist and publisher of Cincinnati beacon.com, Kabir – I really love Obama and am involved with Obama for Change, I am a speech pathologist, Marilyn – done a lot of Obama campaign work, Randall, I am a community health minister, job experience in healthcare, now feel that food is THE issue re. health; Mira I have been for socialized medicine since before I was born, am 72, and am against health insurance companies; Katsura, just graduated from UC, got doctorate in special ed, I am Japanese. Janet a Jewish Catholic Crone 95 yrs old. Helped found Grailville.
The biggest problem with our health system
Justin: the head of GAO was warning that the biggest threat to the country was our danger of bankruptcy and the biggest danger for that is healthcare... Underinsured population... Lowest health care stats of any industrialized nation. Our system takes 25-30 cents of every healthcare dollar and uses it for overhead and bureaucracy. I like a Medicare type system similar to Canada. A majority of Americans support a single payer system (like Medicare) even if it means higher taxes. 59% of doctors also support it. Problem is special interests. The Canadian system spends 11% of their GDP and cover everyone, while we spend 16% of our GDP on healthcare and leave we leave 47million uninsured, a similar number underinsured, and 18000 people each year die because they do not have healthcare. Like six 911 crises every year. (from Nat’l Inst. Of Medicine data, Census Bureau.)
Gwen: I think the biggest problem with the system is that it is designed to profit the Corporations (managed care, insurers, drug cos. All.) . They are non-human.
Kabir: I agree. The system is for-profit and that is a fundamental flaw. Can’t be effective. I think cost of insurance is a major problem, a single policy cost is almost $12000 per year. My cost after retiring is 10000 year for me and spouse. And I feel the exclusion of people because of pre-existing health conditions from getting individual policies is terrible. They make their money by insuring well people and denying care to others who need it.
It is immoral.
Don I will conceded one thing. There are people, like young people who do not buy insurance, and then when they get sick they want insurance. The solution is for all of us to pay into a pool and then when we get sick there will be coverage.
Joan Part of the problem is that alternative care is not generally covered. A friend, a physician head of cancer research at Mass gen’l was turned down for a study on flax seed and cancer. But they will fund a study of aromasin which is very expensive, also a preventive for cancer in post menopausal women, and it has many side effects. Flax seed has no side effects and there are studies suggesting it prevents breast cancer. We could prevent a lot of breast cancer if people would consume ground flax seed daily. And various foods are probably important. Walnuts are important, containing melatonin and omega 3 fatty acids... Some fish... Lots of evidence that Omega 3 prevents cancer. So the system prevents scientific wide-scale studies, because there is no profit in things like flax seed. ....
Don Medical care does not fit in the business paradigm. It is not a discretionary expense. .... The uninsured are driving the cost of health care. They get a lot of their care from ER services, which is the most expensive way to treat people. $700 to treat a sore throat in the ER. The hospitals are overwhelmed by the costs of ER, and they shift the costs to the insurance companies, driving up the costs of insurance, which makes more people drop out of insurance, and more people going to the Er.
Randall: This is a system riddled with major problems top to bottom. Having spent 30 years in this domain. Have no health insur. Since 1992. Drs are fighting to become #3 as worst cause of death after heart disease and cancer and diabetes. Hospital mistakes and environment are also on the top ten list . I am concerned with the way things are framed. The neo cons were masters of this. Now we have to be careful of how the Democrats are framing this issue. In the Participants Guide it frames things in (bad ways). Prevention approaches mention mammogram screening and cholesterol screening, but screening are not preventive. They mention flu shots which are terrible because they still contain mercury. (There is a big discussion about whether it causes autism). So we need to challenge the frame of this conversation.
We should challenge instead the efficacy of our approach to medicine, rather than who pays for it.
The gov’t already pays over 50% of all health costs.
We do need a just system, but we need to be careful about whether a universal health care system is going to get it for us.
The issue is that real solutions are not allowed into our system ... We know how to cure cancer, heart disease, AIDS... Almost all disease comes either from toxins in the body and getting them out, or else deficiencies of nourishment which is rare in the U.S.
The contribution of genetics is way over counted.
Mira: most Americans don’t realize that other countries are using more open minded ways of dealing with the ill. Nutrition is the coming thing. I t hink it is going to arise in the public schools ... Most ads on TV that children watch have a lot of bad nutrition. Soda pop depletes calcium in bones, for instance. ... In other countries health care is offered by the gov’t. All our congress people have excellent health care. In China there were a lot of “barefoot doctors” going around with herbal medicine and simple treatments that helped a lot of people. People here don’t realize the answer is not necessarily at the drug store. For instance, acupuncture for low back pain.
Another problem is the failure of common people to take a role in their own care, looking for simple, good remedies rather than expensive pharmaceutical solutions.
We also do not look at the pollution and toxicities in our country, which cause disease.
We can look at the French and Canadian systems and improve on them. But we need justice, not just profits for corporations. The pre-existing condition thing is ridiculous.
We need a turn around of the whole approach to health care in this country.
I agree that the profit motive is not any insurance to people’s welfare, even though it attracts a lot of attention. There are ads for products that make them seem really wonderful.
When I was out of work and buying my own insurance I had the idea that if all the people who were taking good care of themselves, they should get together and get a better plan.
And re. the quality of care, drs are quitting because they cannot take the proper amount of time with each patient. Geriatricians are dropping out because of this.
Katsura: right now Japanese system is getting worse; the gov’t does not want to treat those over 70 years old. We have a national health system. Incredibly good, friendly to all people including visitors. If you need emergency treatment you just pay about $600 and the gov’t pays everything else of hospital costs.
If you are employed, you only pay 10% of the cost of outpatient and inpatient treatment. If you are the spouse or child of the employed person, you must 30% of the costs.
People pay a graduated tax against their old age health expenses.
... Old people have been stealing medications ... Young people who are unemployed are underserved also.
The good thing about Japanese system is that we educated children about how to eat. We are also very friendly to visitors with health care. Better than the care I have had in the U.S. As a student; my student’s health insurance is really bad here.
Janet: my major problem is paying for the drugs. Medicare doesn’t pay anything for the drugs. I don’t have Medicare Part D.
Ellen: (reconstructed next day) There has been a philosophical shift in how Americans look at paying for health care in my lifetime. In the 40’s and 50’s no one thought some one else should pay for your doctor visit. Most people had insurance for “hospital care”, in case they had a huge surgery bill. It was looked at in the same light as fire insurance ... True insurance for an unlikely event to mitigate the disaster. Today we are morphing towards a philosophy that health care is a basic human right, much as we feel that education is a right, and we should jointly provide for the education/health care of all citizens through taxes. It seems, however, that right now we are incomplete in this shift. I am curious how many of us in this discussion believe that health care is a basic right, to be paid for by the society at large?
(In the ensuing discussion it seemed that we couldn’t take a simple poll of opinion on this issue. People wanted to know what part of health care would be implied, etc. etc. There was confusion, it seemed to me, as to what we actually believe. Some felt that self-pay is a good thing and motivates self responsibility. There was also seeming confusion as to whether “free” health care would be more motivating for lifestyle improvement because the government would be interested in providing information about it, e.g. dietary changes.)
Randall: one in 3 Americans have a chronic condition... Huge portion of the cost. All of them are the result of our eating animals, and the manner we raise the animals etc. People aren’t given a fair choice to be vegetarian. It is a big job just to be vegetarian; the society is bent towards meat eating. I want more costs to be put on the public rather than the gov’t because then people will realize what is really causing health. You make different decisions when you are paying your own healthcare costs. The diabetes and obesity epidemics among children...that’s not a choice for them. The culture is stacked against healthy eating.
The question is whether we should make healthcare a universal responsibility like with education. As a society we would then look at real prevention.
Joan: there is a study showing if you give children the option to choose apples etc., and veg. they will have better behavior. Proper diet.
Gwen: I agree with Randall but want to go in the opposite direction. If it is society’s problem to pay for care of those who want to eat Twinkies all day, then they don’t have any incentive to change their diet. So that’s the only reason why I wouldn’t like all healthcare free. I want people to have incentive to make healthy choices.
Don: I have a problem with wanting co-pays, which is what you are describing. It will delay care especially for the poor.
And there is no such thing as free health care. However you pay for it , it will trickle down to all of us. The question is whether we have a commercial system or a single payer system. The issue is how to handle medical care today, including picking up the pieces for the sins of the past. I would like to discuss #4: “would you like the option to purchase a private care vs. a Medicare type plan?”
If we had the option of paying into a Medicare type system for everyone, a public funded option competing with private health care insurance, in the long run the public system will win out eventually, because overhead for Medicate is only 3%, vs. 30% for the private insurance systems.
Katsura: in Japan we have good accessibility to specialists etc. Here, you have to go to your primary care person and it takes forever. (Ellen: that’s only true if you have a HMO plan.)
Mira: when you said “we have public schools”, I want to say that we don’t have public education any more. People who can, take their kids out and put them in parochial or private schools.
Kabir: Ellen’s question is systemic. I believe healthcare is a basic human right... Should be free. Like education. How to go about doing it I don’t know.
(In private conversation in the kitchen after the salon, Don, who was probably our very most well-informed member tonight, said that the Obama system would offer people the choice between a public insurer like Medicare, and a variety of private health insurance companies and plans. And since the overhead for private plans is 30%, while that for Medicare is only 3%, it wouldn’t take very long before people realize that they get more in the public plan. So eventually, the private companies will be shut out anyway, since nobody would choose them. So in a way, the Obama plan is a “stealth” single-payer strategy. Neat!)
Also: Salonista Jeff Cobb joins the Healthcare discussion via email as follows:
Hi Ellen,
If you want to try conferencing me in by phone, we could try that. But largely my input would (likely) be confined to what I'm about to offer now.
First, I would suggest looking at countries that are doing better than we are in health care; what really works in the real world, and works better than what we are doing. I would begin by looking at all those studies that compare health care systems of countries around the world, and look at those countries that are doing better than we are by whatever measure is being used. Particular focus should be paid to those countries that consistently provide better, more cost effective health care than we do across all those studies. Figure out what they are doing that we aren't, and copy them. For instance, I've seen one study that lists countries by the longest life span of their citizens. What are those countries that beat us doing that we aren't?
Second, studies show that hospitals that increase autopsy rates, have a corresponding decrease in deaths due to medical error. "Hospitals with higher autopsy rates have lower error rates," Dr. Elizabeth Burton, a medical scholar and director of autopsy pathology at Baylor University Medical Center in Dallas claims. "And it's -- there's an inverse correlation for each 10 percent increase in autopsy rate, there's about a 12 percent decrease in error rate, which is fascinating." http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/05/07/sunday/main1596112.shtml. I would suggest mandating that all US hospitals autopsy every single death that takes place in the hospital.
Insurance company and drug company lobbyists need to be identified by name and the contributions made by insurance & drub companies to members of Congress tracked on one website, so we know what members of Congress NOT to trust, and we can contact those members by name and ask them not to speak with those insurance company lobbyists BY NAME. The purpose of this is to let the insurance companies and Congress know they are being watched closely.
Create a government-run (not advertising based like webmd.com <http://webmd.com> ) website so that when someone is given a diagnosis, then can go to that website and sign in by name, to see what particular comments their doctor entered. It would list causes of that diagnosis, what to do to help themselves get better, preventative steps to prevent re occurrence, detailed explanations for all of these, but written for the layman. There could then be links provided to studies backing all that info up, if the patient wanted to dig further. It could include a log for tracking medication, exercise that was done, other recommended patient actions like diet change, etc. It would also be on this personal account that any and all webcam video would be stored for replay and documentation. This would be part of the 'national health information technology system' mentioned below.
Biggest problem in health care system is cost, due to insurance and drug lobbyists. Once we cut out the lobbyist influence, health care costs will drop dramatically enough to be affordable for more Americans, although some degree of tort reform (limitations on malpractice awards) will likely need to take place before health care costs will no longer be artificially inflated. Creating some kind of approach to health care such that ALL Americans are covered or able to get it without restrictions when needed MUST be one of the goals of our health care delivery system. Some cost is due to malpractice suits with awards too large because of greedy lawyers, not needy, wronged patients.
As an Army veteran, I currently use the VA system given the cost of co pays, how little is covered by my employer's policy, my income, etc. So doctors and hospitals are chosen for me. It's a lot more waiting, but I work a weekend shift right now, so it's not really an issue. When I wasn't using the VA, I asked around and got people's opinions, and also tried to go by doctor's opinions. For instance, I went to my doctor when I had a back problem, and told him I was considering a chiropractor. He seconded that, and recommended the one I had in mind already. Done deal! I also sometimes use Buddhist meditation for such decisions, but I can't explain how that works to non-Buddhists without writing a book.
I'm not deeply familiar with an 'insurance exchange', but if it gives people cheaper, effective health care, I'm all for it. A public plan would also be a good idea.
A friend who is a small business owner with less than 50 employees (probably closer to 25) says health care for the employees is his biggest expense. As long as this kind of thing continues, heath care is too expensive.
....
Have fun! HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!
Jeff
~ End of Table Notes~
- Hugs to everyone,
Ellen
Section Two: Events & Opportunities
(From Ellen: see, the Obama team has been eliciting questions from the populace regarding priorities and policy via the change.gov website. They actually are reading these questions! People can “vote” for the questions they regard as most important, and the “transition team” write answers to them. Pretty cool. The new presidency is re-inventing democracy.)
Dear PNHP Members and Friends,
Please use the Obama web site to vote your support for the single-payer position. The Obama transition team is soliciting questions from the public via their web site. Visitors may "vote" for the best questions, which will then be responded to by the Obama team.
As of this writing, single-payer questions have been voted #2 and #3 under the "health care" section. Please help us vote them to the top and send a strong message to the Obama team and the new Congress that the American public favors single payer, not incremental band-aids.
http://change.gov/openforquestions
In addition, we encourage you to submit your own questions which will highlight the inadequacies of the Obama proposal. Sample questions are reprinted below the instructions which follow:
Instructions for Voting / Submitting Questions
1. Visit http://change.gov/openforquestions
2. Click the small "Sign In" text on the right-hand side of the screen. Sign-in with your email and password on the right. (If you haven't signed-in before, just fill out the short form on the left.)
3. Under "pick a topic" on the left-hand side of the screen, click "health care."
4. Questions will appear in a box in the middle. Skip the large question in the blue box and scroll down. Immediate below the large blue question will be leading questions. Two excellent ones should be near the top:
"We all recognize the insurance industry is the problem, not lack of insurance--what are you going to do about getting single payer (government) health care, as other progressive countries throughout the industrialized world have done?"
"What are the obstacles to implementing the single-payer health care used in Canada, the United Kingdom, and Australia? With a growing number of unemployed or underemployed in 2009, will your administration work towards single-payer as a goal?"
(Note: More good questions may have appeared by the time you read this. You may want to examine others if you have time)
5. To vote for these questions, click the small "check" box beside it.
6. To Submit a question, click the "submit a question" box at the bottom of the screen and type it in. Here are some example questions:
Employer-based coverage continues to steadily deteriorate, leaving millions without access to care due to costs and hundreds of thousands facing medical bankruptcy even though they're insured. Why should we use this defective system as the as the foundation of reform when research shows single-payer national health insurance could provide comprehensive, universal care for no more than we're paying now?
Subsidy and individual mandate schemes have failed to achieve universal coverage anywhere they've been tried…including most recently in Massachusetts. Rather than reprising these mistakes, wouldn't it be better to move to a proven system - single-payer national health insurance - which has already afforded other industrialized countries healthier populations at lower costs?
Sincerely,
Quentin Young, MD
National Coordinator
Physicians for a National Health Program
Physicians for a National Health Program
29 E Madison Suite 602, Chicago, IL 60602
Phone (312) 782-6006 | Fax: (312) 782-6007
www.pnhp.org | info@pnhp.org
© PNHP 2008
Vigil to Protest Bombing of Gaza: Friday
Meet 6 pm at the fountain, Clifton and Ludlow. Flashlight walk to the Mosque at Clifton and McAlpin. Over at 7.
Sponsored by IJPC, the Islamic community, and some local religious leaders from the Roman Catholic and Jewish world.
(see below in Articles section for views of my Israeli friend and the national peace and justice organization email about the bombing. I will probably attend the walk/protest/peace demonstration just because I am for peace. However, Israel is hardly the big villain here. Hamas, the terrorist organization operating in Gaza, terrorizing both Palestinians in Gaza and Israelis in the Negev desert region with rocket attacks... They are the villain. Egypt knows it, but won’t stop them. ellen)
Rabbi Susan Einbinder sends this: Add your voice to the many across the world concerned about the bombing of civilians in Gaza
There will be a vigil at the corner of Ludlow and Clifton in Cincinnati at 6:00 p.m. on Friday, January 2, to be followed at 6:30 p.m. by a solemn procession to the Clifton Mosque at 3668 Clifton Ave, Cincinnati, OH . We will call for an end to the bombing and for an immediate ceasefire .
Spread the Word
Sunday, 1/4, SING IN SACRED CIRCLE with Shelly Graff and friends at First UU Church on Reading Rd.
I am planning to be there! ellen
December 31, 2008
Dear Friend,
I would like to invite you to experience a very unique opportunity on Sunday, January 4th.
This Sunday, the Cincinnati Singing in Sacred Circle will be joined by some of the members of the Columbus Singing In Sacred Circle to do a Singing In Sacred Circle
service for the congregation of the First Unitarian Church of Cincinnati. We have woven the Singing In Sacred Circle format into the Order of Service to create a non-traditional, experiential service. Of course, everyone is welcome to participate at the level at which she/he feels comfortable. J
We hope that you will be able to join us for this experience. The service starts at
10:30 AM and the church is located at 536 Linton Street (Linton is a small side street off of the section of Reading Road between William Howard Taft and Martin Luther King Drive).
Please feel free to email me if you have any questions or you would like more information about this service.
Hope to see you soon!
In Feminist Spirit, Shelley
graffran@choice.net
Please attend the January 14 Wednesday Night Salon, when we invite members of the Muslim congregation to join with us in planning an intercommunity feed-the-hungry project for service and healing across cultural lines. Ellen
PLEASE DONATE BLOOD to Hoxworth Center. Tell them it is for the “Lloyd House”. Call 451-0910 to schedule your appt. at one of 9 convenient centers, lots of hours of availability. Whole blood takes about 1 hour from walking in to walking out.
I gave blood on Christmas Eve... Felt really good to do that. Set up your appointment now. And don’t forget to say “Lloyd House” when asked if you were donating for a group. Ellen
Our Lives With Words: A Writing Class
When: Thirteen Mondays, Jan. 5- March 30, 2009
7:00-9:00 P.M.
Where: Holistic Health Center
800 Compton Rd. #24 (45231)
Who: Women and men
All levels of writing ability in all genres
Limit of 18
Why: To deepen writing practice, nourish writing life
What: Each class will include time for a small group
workshop and as much as possible there will be
focus in the large group on the writing of the
participants.
Cost: Donation ($200.— $300. Suggested)
To register: Send $20 and contact information to
Facilitator: Valerie Chronis Bickett
1555 Donaldson Place
Cincinnati OH 45223
513.681-9252 vcb@fuse.net
Wednesday, 21 January, come to special presentation at the Salon:
"Checklist for a Healthy Lifestyle"
A new year - a new you!
There's a tendancy to abdicate our rights and responsibilites for good health to our health care system. Rather than using it as a last resort, we rely on the "sick care" industry to keep us well.
Join Llee Sivitz, Certified Healthy Lifestyle Coach,
as she reviews the "Checklist for a Healthy Lifestyle"
There are five things most important to health and longevity.
Learn the how and why to incorporate them into your daily routine.
Return your rights and responsibilities for good health to the individual.
Its never too late to take care of your body and your life.
Llee Sivitz, Certified Healthy Lifestyle Coach FREE health talks to groups; Individual/online support (Call direct) 513.205.9236 Juice Plus+ - "Better Nutrition for Better Health" www.LleesJP.com 24-HR Messages, Dial 1-800-942-1260, press #1, to select: "The Importance of Children's Nutrition" "From Surviving to Thriving" "Facts and Fantasies of Weight Loss" "The Role of Nutrition in Cancer"
(I’ve known Llee for decades... Smart, gracious, credible! Ellen)
Please do Ellen a favor:
I need to collect references from “constituents” as the convener of the Lloyd House Salon and publisher of this Weekly newsletter. Please take a moment* and go to http://www.linkedin.com , put my name, Ellen Bierhorst, in the “people search” box, and when it comes up, click on the link in blue that says “Recommend this person”*. Then say something nice about what a community service it is to have the weekly Salon pot luck gatherings and the Salon Weekly newsletter, and what kind of a job I have done since July, 2001. Would help me out a lot. Ellen
*(I just learned that to give a recommendation you have to sign up at linkedin, then join my network, then after I “accept” you can leave a recommendation. Sounds like a lot of trouble. )
To those of you who responded to this request, many many thanks! ellen
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Hey folks- I'm a raw milk drinker and looking to share 1/2 gallon a
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IDEAS FOR MENTAL HEALTH:
(See my pieces on wellness in my website http://www.lloydhouse.com ... Useful pieces about insomnia, eating disorder, visiting family at holidays, and the newest, how husbands fear their wives...etc.)
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YOGA at Lloyd House. Wednesdays 9:15 – 10:30 am. Open, free practice group led by Nina Tolley.
Tai Chi practice group Sundays 10:15 a.m. Led by Jackie Millay.
Soon we will have a Friday morning Yoga class with professional Yoga teacher Phoenix Wilson (she’s terrific!). Stay tuned.
Articles
- Israeli bombing of gaza : The UJP letter, and a letter from Avraham Oz
- Howard Konicov on Cincinnati Transit
- Alan Scheidt on Obamania
- The Obama folks’ Discussion Guide on HealthCare
- Nancy Dawley (And Tom Daschle) on Health Care
Israeli bombing of Gaza
I just spoke with my Israeli friends, a good liberal family, who said this is a really tough issue. Israel has been allowing humanitarian aid into the area, many trucks every day, (see videos on YouTube) and previously has withdrawn from Gaza, withdrawn settlements. Also, Hamas ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas) has been sending terrorist rocket bombs into the Israeli settlements in the Negev (near Gaza), has been persecuting the non-Hamas residents of Gaza, and Egypt, seeing the problem of Hamas, has their border with Gaza closed, but does not take on the terrorist organization Hamas. Hamas has been very clever in placing their rocket launching sites in residential areas, but Israel has done a terrific job of gathering intelligence so that their attacks on these rocket launching and other Hamas sites can be pin-pointed much better than in previous times. Here’s the NY times article from 12/30, Tuesday: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/30/world/middleeast/30mideast.html?th&emc=th
Below, theUPJ bulletin, and also a letter from Avraham Oz, Israeli humanist.
Ellen
From United for Peace and Justice:
Dear Friends,
How awful to start this new year with a message calling for urgent action to stop a brutal military assault, but the ongoing situation in Gaza demands that we raise our voices.
Since Saturday, Dec. 27th, the Israeli government has bombarded the Gaza Strip. The latest news reports at least 400 Palestinians have been killed and more than 2,000 wounded. Many of these people are suffering with serious wounds while medical professionals are doing their best to treat people even though they lack the most basic medicines and equipment. (Israel is now sending many trucks of humanitarian aid into Gaza according to my trusted friends. It is weird that UPJ does not report this. Ellen)
And there is no end in sight. The Israeli government has rejected the plea for a 48-hour cease-fire which would have allowed some aid to get into the Gaza Strip. (this statement seems highly propagandistic and prejudiced. Humanitarian aid is arriving, despite the fact that no cease fire has been agreed upon.ellen) The troop and equipment buildup on the Gaza border could mean Israel is planning a ground invasion, which would not come as a big surprise since Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert has said the air strikes are merely "the first stage."
We cannot forget the role of the U.S. government in this: Israel's current attack and their ongoing siege of the Gaza Strip would not have been possible without the massive military and political support provided by Washington. As explained by the U.S. Campaign to End the Israeli Occupation: "From 2001-2006, the United States transferred to Israel more than $200 million worth of spare parts to fly its fleet of F16's and more than $100 million worth of helicopter spare parts for its fleet of Apaches. In July 2008, the United States gave Israel 186 million gallons of JP-8 aviation jet fuel and signed a contract to transfer an additional $1.9 billion worth of littoral combat ships to the Israeli navy. Last year, the United States signed a $1.3 billion contract with Raytheon to transfer to Israel thousands of TOW, Hellfire, and "bunker buster" missiles."
NOW IS THE TIME TO TAKE ACTION!
Below are several Action Ideas from the U.S. Campaign to End the Israeli Occupation. Be sure to check their website for frequent updates about ongoing efforts to end the occupation and U.S. support for the occupation.
And be sure to keep checking the UFPJ website for up-to-date information about this critically important work as well as the other peace and justice efforts of United For Peace and Justice.
Please make a financial contribution today to help us keep doing this vitally important work. Thank you so much.
peace,
Leslie Cagan
National Coordinator, UFPJ
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STOP THE ASSAULT ON GAZA!
URGENT ACTION SUGGESTIONS from the U.S. Campaign to End the Israeli Occupation
1. Take to the streets and make your opposition public.
We must keep up the protests until there is a cease-fire and a lifting of the siege of Gaza. We're calling on everyone to continue to organize protests in your community. Thousands of people have already taken to the streets in New York, Washington, San Francisco, Los Angeles, Dearborn, MI and dozens of other cities to protest Israel's attacks on the Gaza Strip. We're maintaining a comprehensive listing of all protests -- more than 100 in at least 30 states and 65 cities so far -- on our website and updating it continuously. Join a protest near you or organize one and send us the details. If you know of a protest not listed on our site, send us all the logistical details and contact information by clicking here.
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Israeli Intellectual Avraham Oz, against the Gaza Bombing
From: Avraham Oz [mailto:avitaloz@gmail.com]
Sent: Fri 1/2/2009 9:20 AM
To: Oz, Avraham
Subject: A Middle East Update, 1 January 2009
Dear friends,
....
....
These are extremely horrifying days in this ever sad part of the world. The
deadly attacks on Gaza are incomprehensible, revolting and paralysing one's
heartbeats. The most frustrating experience is the large measure of consent
those atrocious bombings of civilians in Gaza enjoy among Israelis around
one. People whose hearts lie usually in the right place are carried over by
support to this "due punishment" of the demonized Hamas.
It should be stated at the outset I have no spot of sympathy towards the
Hamas regime in Gaza. Far from being freedom fighters, they betrayed the
trust given them by the residents of Gaza, having voted for them mainly as a
protest against the former, corrupt administration of Fatah, and rather than
tending to the welfare of the Gaza citizens have established there a
fundamentalist regime spending more efforts on shelling Israeli civilians
than improving the well-being of the most densely populated region in the
world.
Three years ago, I have founded a division of theatre studies at the
Sapir Academic College, situated about 3 miles from the city of Gaza, and
once a week my colleagues and I taste the routine of holding academic
studies under regular rocket attacks: a colleague of mine was injured there
last year, while a few yards from him a student was killed by a rocket. We
know but too well that what we undergo there once a week does not
amount into a fraction of the routine undergone by our students there and
the residents of the region, whose life is constantly disrupted and made
hell by rockets and missiles over the last 8 years. No, I have no sympathy
to that fundamentalist regime of Hamas, that even now, on these terrible
days, rather than resort to negotiations, answers the Israeli army's
atrocities solely by practicing a sportive contest who could shell civilians
longer and better, knowing very well this will not stop the war waged on
them by the Israeli army but rather strengthen the support granted it by the
Israeli public.
Yet having said that, all this does not diminish by a jot the sense of
bewilderness, the amazement and the infinite sorrow one feels in view of the
primitive instinct of battle storming and whirling around and blinding every
one's senses. As if massacring hundreds, many of them civilians, and
injuring over a thousand may bring any kind of peace between the struggling
nations in the region. Even the residents of the shelled areas constantly
implore the government to inflict disasters and wreckage on the
Palestinians, substituting revenge for remedy. The rage for battle mars
every one's will. The bliss of speech and reason as building bridges is
increasingly neglected by those who despise and subdue art and academe;
humanism is overridden by those who constantly obliterate and banish the
humanities from the curriculum. Battle cries substitute analysis, and
conscience, making cowards of us all, is confined to deep storage. Suddenly
everything converge: years and years of suppressing the poetic idiom of
morality, the sense of humanism, the courage of true art, have brought us to
the verge of abandoning compassion. While bombing civilians we discuss
strategy; while depriving the needy (both in Gaza and the Israeli south), we
interpret market moves and "balance of terror." Our oracles are indexed
by Dow Jones and its likes, our mirrors have become the so-called "reality
shows" on screen. The local Media, strongly supporting this evil war,
estimates human lives in terms of strategic digits, counting casualties and
injured by measures borrowed from the financial sections and more interested
in the impact of the wings of war on the hazardous outcome of the imminent,
redundant elections, after which whoever wins will conduct us along the road
of war onto the next round of aggression and destruction. We have all
become one big reality show, a simulacrum, hardly engaging the emotions any
more than do competitive sporting games. And, like every "reality show," it
inheres a well designed scenario where everyone is positioned against their
black and white silhouettes. The controversially percentaged number of
protesters against the war, on campuses and streets, those for whom the loss
of human lives does not yet fall within the calculus of a sophisticated war
game, are dubbed by the media "Israeli Arabs." I will partake, this Saturday
evening, in the major demonstration against the war on Rabin Square, Tel
Aviv, curious, though not holding my breath, to see how many fellow
protesters merit that idiosyncratic attribute.
...
For better days
A. Oz
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Professor Avraham Oz
Department of Hebrew and Comparative Literature
University of Haifa
Mount Carmel, 31905 Haifa, Israel
Office Fax +972-4-8249713
Home Telefax +972-3-5609627
Mobile +972-50-7220783
Email: avitaloz@gmail.com
Environmentalist Howard Konicov on Cincinnati Transportation Solutions
From: Howard Konicov <hkonicov@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 9:48 PM
Subject: Transit Recommendations informed by the past
To: Justin Jeffre <justinjeffre@gmail.com>, Justin Jeffre <jjeffre@cincinnatibeacon.com>
Justin et al,
(That’s Justin Jeffre of the CincinnatiBeacon.com who was with us last night at the salon... Ellen)
My recommendations on Transit going back 4 years essentially involve recommendations to the Mayor & County Commissioners:
- To appoint someone close to them with strong environmental credentials the Sorta Board,
- To work collectively so that the City & County have a coordinated vision. (In the past the Sorta Board was split between the Luken faction and the Gettler faction and the life was getting squeezed out of transit.)
- To, in the near term, re-open historic trolley, perhaps to Xavier & Norwood; to Loveland and further East, and to uptown along Central Parkway to Ludlow,
- To reconstruct a small historic incline for tourism from Ted Berry International Friendship Park to Mt Adams,
- And finally, in the longer term, it would be very smart to finish the transit loop connecting the employment centers.
- Open up dedicated bicycle lanes with landscaping perhaps on Taft as an East-West Corridor; on Central Parkway going North-South; and a network connecting the city's neighborhood business districts which, in conjunction with their respective community councils approve the specific routing,
- Complete the Loveland bike trail to Downtown,
- Complete the Millbrook trail transportation plan,
- Network it all into SORTA & the Midwest Regional Rail Initiative out of Chicago & Amtrak in Union Terminal, which has an unbelievable trip (the Hoosier line running for over 100 years) up the Ohio river and the New river in West Virginia going to Washington DC & onto New York City, and then finally,
- Build a permanent riverboat docking facility for Tall Stacks and expanded Riverboat tourism commerce.
Thank you for your continued quality of life efforts. It is genuinely appreciated!!
Happy Holidays,
Howard M. Konicov
MSES/MPA IU School of Public & Environmental Affairs;
Bachelor of Arts in Economics Washington University in St. Louis
Former EAC Chairman 2002-2003
Executive Director The Synthesis Foundation
Salonista-West Alan Scheidt: “Bah Humbug” to our starry-eyed Obama enthusiasm
Ellen,
Is any of this new to anyone who has been conscious during the last 20 years? Do any of these questions really need to be answered (yet again) at this point? This smacks of a "good intentions" horse-and-pony-show salving to me.
Frankly, I would rather see the time and resources that are being spent on this touchy-feely "inclusiveness exercise" put into a practical application of what any informed, adult American already knows needs to be done and absolutely can be done, if the powers that be would just stop pissing money away on pointless wars (including the ones on drugs and "terror") and insane bailouts--among many, many other things.
"Barack Obama" (please note the quotation marks) is a bill of goods that has been sold to a vast majority who thinks they can "hope" and "believe" their problems away. The new administration is the same-ol'-same-ol' in shiny, new PC packaging. The only "change" is the tone of the delivery, the "wrapper." Nothing is going to really change until we have core, revolutionary change in a system that is so flawed, so ingrained with multiple corruptions that it is beyond fixing. The 2000 election was, once and for all, GAME OVER. Everything since (including 9/11) has been "what else do you need to see this doesn't work?"
This begs a truism I've learned in other quarters: we only need to change one thing--everything. And this doesn't mean changing a white Republican president for a black Democratic one. It's time to renew the basic tenents of America from the ground up.
Alan Scheidt <alanlivesarts@yahoo.com>
And here is the Health Care Discussion guide provided by the Obama People
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POLICY BACKGROUND AND KEY QUESTIONS
The President-elect believes that every American should have high quality and affordable health care, and to
reach this goal, we must modernize our health care system in order to:
• Improve health care quality and cut costs;
• Expand coverage and access; and
• Increase the emphasis on primary care and prevention.
As we work to revamp our health care system, we need to hear from you. There is no problem that we cannot
solve together—and it is out of our collective wisdom and experience that we will identify potential solutions to
the many health care challenges that we face. We need to hear your ideas and your stories so that we can report
them to the President-elect. What follows is brief background information to help you start a discussion and a
set of key questions. Your answers to them will guide our collective effort to reform the U.S. health system.
I. OVERVIEW OF THE PROBLEM
The potential of health care in America is enormous and ever expanding. Diseases that once were lifethreatening
are now curable; conditions that once were devastating are now treatable. We have the knowledge
to extend and improve lives.
But, as the stories of those who participated in the recent on-line discussion at www.change.gov testify, our
system is flawed and fails to deliver affordable, high-quality health care to all Americans. Our system faces
three interrelated problems.
First, health care costs are skyrocketing, hurting our families as well as our economy:
• Health insurance premiums have doubled in the past 8 years, accompanied by increasing co-pays and
deductibles that threaten access to care.1
• Large medical bills have contributed to half of bankruptcies and foreclosures.2
• Rising health care costs place a burden on American businesses, as they try to balance health benefit costs
with job growth and competitiveness. American manufacturers are paying more than twice as much on
health benefits as most of their foreign competitors (measured in cost per hour).3
• Problems with health care quality and administrative “waste” contribute to these costs:
o Medical errors result in as many as 100,000 deaths per year in U.S. hospitals.4
o On average, American adults received just 55 percent of recommended care for the leading causes of
death and disability.5
• The U.S. spent $412 per capita on health care administration and insurance in 2003—nearly 6 times as much
as other developed countries.6
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Second, over forty-five million Americans have no health insurance:
• Nearly 160 million Americans have job-based insurance, but many are just a pink slip away from joining the
ranks of the uninsured. For every 1 percentage point increase in the unemployment rate, over one million
people become uninsured.7
• Being uninsured leads to delayed care—late diagnoses for cancer when it is harder and more expensive to
treat, and preventable complications due to untreated diabetes. It also leads to denied care— a child without
health insurance is less likely to receive medical attention for recurrent ear infections or for asthma.
Uninsured trauma victims are less likely to be admitted to the hospital and are 37 percent more likely to die
of injuries.8
• Even people with coverage are increasingly finding that it is insufficient or simply not there when needed.
Nearly one in five Americans either delay care or have unmet needs despite having health insurance.9
Third, our nation’s investment in prevention and public health is inadequate, leading to rapid spread of
chronic diseases, many of which could be prevented entirely or managed:
• One in 3 Americans—or 133 million—have a chronic condition,10 and 5 chronic diseases—heart disease,
cancer, stroke, chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, and diabetes—cause over two-thirds of all deaths.11
• Approximately 1 in 3 children born today will develop diabetes in their lifetime.12
• Only four cents out of every health care dollar is spent on prevention and public health.13
II. THE PRESIDENT-ELECT’S HEALTH CARE PLAN
President-elect Obama presented a framework for health reform to achieve three goals:
Modernize the Health Care System to Improve Quality and Reduce Costs:
• Invest in a national health information technology system that will allow us to coordinate care, measure
quality, reduce medical errors, and save billions of dollars;
• Reward health providers that provide high quality care and coordinated care;
• Expand disease management programs and self-management training to help patients;
• Lower drug costs by increasing the use of generic drugs in public programs, and taking on drug companies
that block cheaper generic medicines from the market;
• Require hospitals and providers to collect and report health care cost and quality data.
Expand Coverage to All Americans:
• Build upon and strengthen employer coverage;
• Allow people to keep the coverage that they have and maintain patients’ choice of doctor;
• Establish a National Health Insurance Exchange that offers a range of private insurance options as well as a
new public plan option;
• Require insurance companies to cover pre-existing conditions so all Americans regardless of their health
status or history can get comprehensive benefits at fair and stable premiums;
• Expand Medicaid and SCHIP and provide sliding-scale premium assistance for low-income people.
Improve Prevention and Public Health:
• Require coverage of clinical preventive services such as tobacco cessation services and cancer screenings, in
public programs and private health plans;
• Invest in community-based prevention that will lead to healthier schools, worksites, and communities;
• Tackle the health and public health workforce shortage and bolster the public health infrastructure.
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III. QUESTIONS
1. Briefly, from your own experience, what do you perceive is the biggest problem in the health system?
2. How do you choose a doctor or hospital? What are your sources of information? How should public policy
promote quality health care providers?
3. Have you or your family members ever experienced difficulty paying medical bills? What do you think
policy makers can do to address this problem?
4. In addition to employer-based coverage, would you like the option to purchase a private plan through an
insurance-exchange or a public plan like Medicare?
5. Do you know how much you or your employer pays for health insurance? What should an employer’s role
be in a reformed health care system?
6. Below are examples of the types of preventive services Americans should receive. Have you gotten the
prevention you should have? If not, how can public policy help?
7. How can public policy promote healthier lifestyles?
EXAMPLES OF RECOMMENDED PREVENTIVE SCREENINGS
Screening Mammography:
• All of the major professional societies that make recommendations about breast cancer
screening recommend that women by age 50 and older get a routine annual screening
mammography for breast cancer. Many of these societies recommend that women
should undergo such screening at age 40.14
• Yet, only 71.8 percent of women age 50-64 and 63.8 percent of women 65 or older
received a screening mammogram in 2005.15
Flu Shots:
• The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention recommends that all adults over the
age of 50 receive an annual vaccine against influenza.16
• Yet, in 2006, only 45.9 percent of adults over the age of 50 received a flu shot.17
Cholesterol Screening:
• The U.S. Preventive Services Task Force recommends that doctors routinely screen
men ages 35 years and older and women ages 45 years and older for high cholesterol.18
• Yet, according to data from 2007, only 74.9 percent of adults in the U.S. had their
cholesterol checked within the past five years.19
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PARTICIPANT SURVEY FOR HEALTH CARE COMMUNITY DISCUSSION
(Please Give Your Survey To Your Host—Thank You!)
1. What do you perceive is the biggest problem in the health system?
a. Cost of health insurance
b. Cost of health care services
c. Difficulty finding health insurance due to a pre-existing condition
d. Lack of emphasis on prevention
e. Quality of health care
2. What do you think is the best way for policy makers to develop a plan to address the
health system problems?
a. Community meetings like these
b. Traditional town hall meetings
c. Surveys that solicit ideas on reform
d. A White House Health Care Summit
e. Congressional hearings on C-SPAN
3. After this discussion, what additional input and information would best help you to
continue to participate in this great debate?
a. More background information on problems in the health system
b. More information on solutions for health reform
c. More stories on how the system affects real people
d. More opportunities to discuss the issues
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References
1 Kaiser Family Foundation and Health Research and Educational Trust, “Employer Health Benefits 2008” (Menlo Park,
CA), Kaiser Family Foundation (2008), available at http://ehbs.kff.org/pdf/7790.pdf.
2 C.T. Robertson, R. Egelhof, and M. Hoke, “Get Sick, Get Out: The Medical Causes of Home Foreclosures,” Health
Matrix, 18 (2008): 65-105, available at http://works.bepress.com/christopher_robertson/2.
3 Len M. Nichols and Sarah Axeen, “Employer Health Costs in a Global Economy: A Competitive Disadvantage for U.S.
Firms,” New American Foundation (May 2008).
4 Linda T. Kohn, Janet M. Corrigan, and Molla S. Donaldson, Editors; Committee on Quality of Health Care in America,
Institute of Medicine, To Err is Human, Washington, DC: National Academy Press (2000).
5 Elizabeth A. McGlynn et al. “The Quality of Health Care Delivered to Adults in the United States,” NEJM 348 (26):
2635-2645 (June 26, 2003).
6 McKinsey & Company, “Accounting for the Cost of Health Care in the United States” (January 2007).
7 Stan Dorn et al., “Medicaid, SCHIP, and Economic Downturn: Policy Challenges and Policy Responses,” Kaiser
Commission on Medicaid and the Uninsured (April 2008), http://www.kff.org/medicaid/upload/7770.pdf.
8 Institute of Medicine, “Care Without Coverage: Too Little, Too Late - Report Brief,” Washington, DC: National Academy
Press (2002), available at
http://books.nap.edu/books/0309083435/html/73.html#pagetop.
9 P.J. Cunningham, L.E. Felland, “Falling Behind: Americans’ Access to Medical Care Deteriorates, 2003-07,” Center for
Studying Health System Change, Tracking Report No. 19 (June 2008).
10 Gerard Anderson, Robert Herbert, Timothy Zeffiro, and Nikia Johnson, “Chronic Conditions: Making the Case for
Ongoing Care,” Partnership for Solutions, Johns Hopkins and Robert Wood Johnson Foundation (2004).
11 Center for Disease Control and Prevention, “Chronic Disease Overview,” http://www.cdc.gov/nccdphp/overview.htm.
12 Center for Disease Control and Prevention, “Preventing Chronic Diseases: Investing Wisely in Health,”
http://www.cdc.gov/nccdphp/publications/factsheets/Prevention/pdf/diabetes.pdf.
13 Jeanne M. Lambrew, “A Wellness Trust to Prioritize Disease Prevention,” The Hamilton Project, Brookings Institution
(2007), available at http://www3.brookings.edu/views/papers/200704lambrew.pdf.
14 Agency for Health Care Research and Quality, “Screening for Breast Cancer: US Preventive Services Task Force”
(February 2002), available at http://www.ahrq.gov/clinic/uspstf/uspsbrca.htm; American Academy of Family Physicians,
“Periodic Health Examinations: Summary of AAFP Policy Recommendations & Age Charts,” available at
www.aafp.org/exam.xml; Feig, SA, D'Orsi, CJ, Hendrick, RE, et al., “American College of Radiology Guidelines for
Breast Cancer Screening,” American Journal Roentgenology, 171:29, 1998; Amir Qaseem et al, “Screening Mammography
for Women 40 to 49 Years of Age: A Clinical Practice Guideline from the American College of Physicians,” Annals of
Internal Medicine (April 2007) Volume 146, Issue 7, Pages 511-515, available at
http://www.annals.org/cgi/content/full/146/7/511.
15 National Center for Health Statistics, “National Health Interview Survey in Health, United States, 2007 with Chartbook
on Trends in the Health of Americans,” Table 87, available at http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/hus/hus07.pdf.
16 Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, “2008-09 Influenza Prevention and Control Recommendations,” available at
http://www.cdc.gov/flu/professionals/acip/flu_vax_adults0809.htm#box2.
17 National Center for Health Statistics, “National Health Interview Survey in Health, United States, 2007 with Chartbook
on Trends in the Health of Americans,” Table 85, available at http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/hus/hus07.pdf.
18 Agency for Health Care Research and Quality, U.S. Preventive Services Task Force, “Guide to Clinical Preventive
Services,” (2008), available at www.ahrq.gov/clinic/prevnew.htm.
19 National Center for Chronic Disease Prevention & Health Promotion, “Behavioral Risk Factor Surveillance System:
Cholesterol Awareness 2007,” (2007), available at
http://apps.nccd.cdc.gov/brfss/list.asp?cat=CA&yr=2007&qkey=1487&state=All.
Nancy Dawley on Health Care
Some ideas for the Salon, since I'm in California again with my granddaughters.
From watching the medical struggles I've seen with preemies and their care, doctors have to be reeducated. They absolutely believe that preemptive care (vaccinations, tests to see if someone has whatever the latest worry is, doctor visit after doctor visit to check for who knows what) is the only way. It will be difficult to move to a "health" system until doctors know about food, how the body heals itself, and "do no harm." Of course this is not in their financial interests. The more visits the more they consider their practice thriving. Perhaps it's really the other way around. If people have to return, it's a sign of medical failure.
Jeff mentioned that a pediatric practice near them no longer takes insurance. Instead, they charge a monthly fee for whatever care is needed. That, in my opinion, is a good way to go. The doctors have the incentive to heal the children, so they don't see them again, rather than encourage them to return so they get another fee.
Nancy Dawley <NDawley@msn.com>
The two people who are to lead the new White House Office of Health Reform - Tom Daschle and Jeanne Lambrew - coauthored a book earlier this year titled "Critical: What We Can Do About the Health Care Crises." As government officials, their expressions ought to be part of the public domain, and known to everyone. And so we share a few tastes of their thoughts on health care, since they will have much to do with its reform in the coming months and years:
"There are many factors driving up health care costs. One problem is that 'supply side' forces exist in our health-care system. Physicians both diagnose and treat illness - in economic terms, they create and satisfy demand. . . . Conditions such as 'restless leg syndrome' weren't conditions until drugs were developed to treat them."
"We seem to assume that high-tech medicine can only be better than low-tech medicine, that more medical care is better, that newer is better, and that more aggressive is better. Yet sometimes it isn't so." [Quoting from Deyo & Patrick, Hope or Hype: The Obsession with Medical Advances and the High Cost of False Promises, New York AMACOM, 2005]
"[S]pecial interests are especially numerous and influential in the health-care system. Health care comprises one-sixth of our economy, and the savings we seek will come out of executive's salaries and companies' profits. In terms of political clout, the health-care industry is second to none."
"Between 1998 and 2006, pharmaceutical companies and other manufacturers of health-care products spent over a billion dollars on lobbying, more than anybody else and twice as much as the oil and gas industries. Insurance companies, including health insurers, ranked second."
"Since cutting costs is tantamount to cutting profits for many of these special interests, it is reasonable to expect them to engage in all-out war to defeat reform."
Strong words that suggest our "reformers of health care" understand some of the challenges. But do they have the vision to craft the best solution? This book makes no real mention of natural health care, or its important role in prevention and cure. HELP THEM CONNECT THE DOTS! Write them. Email them, Use our letter. Write your own and send it to The White House Office of Health Reform, Attn: Sen. Tom Daschle & Deputy Director Jeanne Lambrew, c/o Center for American Progress, 1333 H St. N.W. 10th Floor, Washington, D.C. 20005. Tell them that natural health must have a fundamental role in the reform of health care now.
Thanks for your support
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Messer/Suda Photography Exhibitions @ Iris Bookcafe [thru Wednesday 31 December @ 7AM-10PM; Sunday @ 11AM-10PM]: Exhibits are William Messer's "In Monet's Garden" & Marc Suda's "Botanica Noveau." A Cincinnati native, Bill is an internationally exhibited & published fine art photographer, critic & curator with work in museum collections in several countries. For 20 years, he has been visiting Claude Monet's garden in Giverny outside Paris to photograph it in black & white. Dayton photographer Marc Suda is exhibiting sepia-toned silver print portraits of flowers & plants previously shown at the Dayton Art Museum. Also on exhibit is "Thin Air," a 40-foot outdoor sculpture installation by Thin Air studio made of Ohio River driftwood. Browse & buy some of the over 5,000 used books (including the best non-English language section in town), LPs & CDs on display, enjoy Aglamesis ice cream, Coffee Emporium coffee, Essencha teas, Myra's Dionyseus soups & sandwiches on Shadeau breads, & the eclectic mix of music always playing. At Iris Bookcafe, 1331 Main Street, Over-The-Rhine, Cincinnati, OH 45202. More info @ 513.381.2665 & Julie@260-8434 <mailto:Julie@260-8434> .
Divine Performing Arts 2009 World Tour [Tuesday 23 December @ 7:30 PM]: Inspired by the rich spirit of an ancient culture, Divine Performing Arts brings to life classical Chinese dance & music in a gloriously colorful & exhilarating show. For 1 show only, its masterful choreography & graceful routines will light up the stage, with gorgeously costumed dancers moving in stunning synchronized patterns. State-of-the-art backdrops conjure up celestial palaces & blossoming landscapes, while a live orchestra combines the best of Chinese & Western composition. Ancient legends of virtue are brought to life alongside modern tales of courage. Soaring songs by masterful vocalists will move & inspire. Based in New York, DPA is independent of China's government & includes artists that practice Falun Gong meditation. DPA seeks to breathe new life into traditional Chinese culture & provide audiences with an experience of sublime beauty. Tickets start at $30; senior, student & group discounts. At Cincinnati Music Hall, 1241 Elm Street, Cincinnati, OH 45202. More info @ 513.621.2787 & www.divineshows.com/cincinnati/ <http://www.divineshows.com/cincinnati/> . <http://www.divineshows.com/cincinnati/>
Studio 313 - Pendleton After Christmas Sale [Friday-Saturday 26-27 December @ 6-10 PM (Fri) & 11 AM - 3 PM (Sat)]: 10-50% off selected work. Celebrate, eat, drink & talk to 12 exhibiting artists about their paintings, photographs, ceramics, jewelry & enamel miniatures. Tim Freeman, Karen Gaski, Ann Geise, Tom & Mary Kinney, Thomas McFarlane, Francis Michaels, Karen Minzner, Judi Parks, Suzzanna Shehata, Gina Stevenson & Jay Wolford. Portrait painter Adam Havelzsky will be demonstrating. Free admission; valet parking $4, free shuttle from parking lot corner @ Reading Rd. & Pendleton St. At Studio 313, Pendleton Art Center, 1310 Pendleton Street, Cincinnati, OH 43202. More info @ 513.843.2710, judiparks@gmail.com & http://pendletonartcenter.com/ebrochure.pdf.
Jesus Christ Superstar [Friday-Sunday 26-28 December @ 8 PM (Fri-Sat) & 3 PM (Sun)]: The Carnegie & The Commonwealth Theatre Company present this classic rock-opera of the last 7 days in the life of Jesus, with Tim Rice's lyrics & Andrew Lloyd Weber's music. Directed by Ken Jones with Northern Kentucky's top young talent in a captivating theatrical experience & musical. Adults are $25; Carnegie & ETA members are $20; kids are $18; groups 10 or more are $18. At Otto M. Budig Theatre, Carnegie Visual & Performing Arts Center, 1028 Scott Boulevard, Covington, KY 41011. More info @ 859.491.2030 & www.thecarnegie.com/main.htm <http://www.thecarnegie.com/main.htm> .
Get Organized for 2009 [Saturday 27 December @ 12:30-4:30 PM]: Set your goals & consider how to balance your 2009 with Marion Corbin-Mayer & Polly Giblin. Have you progressed to where you thought you would be this time last year? Would you like to learn how to focus & align your goals with who you truly are? Join Polly & Marion for a day of inspiration & visioning. Limited to 10. $35 charge; $15 deposit & reservation required. At Creative Catalysts, Studio #231 in Essex Studios, 2511 Essex Place, Cincinnati, OH 45206. More info @ 513.368.1994 & www.creativecatalysts.net <http://www.creativecatalysts.net> .
ballet tech cincinnati Improv Workshops [Saturday 27 December]: Workshops target executives, managers & other business people, & those with some experience in comedy improvisation. The Improv for Business Workshop is @ 9 AM - noon; fee is $50. The Advanced Improv Workshop is 1-3 PM; fee is $25. Both workshops will be led by Melissa Whitis, trainer/coach/writer/educator & specialist in improvisation & its use outside of dramatic arts: presentation skills development, team building, & strengths-based innovation. Learn more about the workshops @ http://dunes.cincinnati.com/pubnews/story.aspx?id=140101&siteID=1 <http://dunes.cincinnati.com/pubnews/story.aspx?id=140101&siteID=1> . At ballet tech cincinnati, Headquarters, Kennedy Heights, 6543 Montgomery Road, Cincinnati, OH 45213. More info @ 513.608.6961, marvel@ballettechcincinnati.org & www.ballettechcincinnati.org <http://www.ballettechcincinnati.org/> .
Cloth Diapering Cuteness [Sunday 4 January @ 2 PM]: An informal class on all aspects of cloth diapering the 1st Sunday of each month. Their 2 in-house mamas tailor each discussion to the specific questions of present parents. Afterward, browse the best selection of cloth diapers in Cincinnati & take advantage of Park + Vine's package discounts. At Park + Vine, 1109 Vine Street, Cincinnati, OH 45202. More info @ 513.721.7275, dan@parkandvine.com <mailto:dan@parkandvine.com> & www.parkandvine.com <http://www.parkandvine.com./> . <http://www.parkandvine.com./>
Redefining Life Purpose [Thursday 8 January @ 7-9 PM]: Polly Giblin will lead you in a spirited exploration of assumptions, values, obstacles & what each individual is trying to achieve in their unique, amazing lives. Series of 4. $125; reservations required. At Creative Catalysts, Studio #231 in Essex Studios, 2511 Essex Place, Cincinnati, OH 45206. More info @ 513.305.0401 & www.creativecatalysts.net <http://www.creativecatalysts.net> .
Live Art Collision [Friday-Saturday 9-10 January @ 8 PM]: Contemporary Dance Theater & the inaugural 2009 Performance & Time Arts presents 7 budding & abutting performers. Drama, dance, poetry, visual art, new music & video technology collide with social & personal performance impact. The Performance & Time Arts series has a 14-year history of presenting adventurous & experimental performance art, giving a venue to talented & creative artists working in time-based media. Tickets at the door; $12 general, $8 students & seniors. At College Hill Town Hall, Contemporary Dance Theater, Inc., 1805 Larch Avenue, Cincinnati, OH 45224. More info @ 513-591-1222, jmikita@fuse.net & www.cdt-dance.org <http://www.cdt-dance.org/> .
Qi Gong Workshop [Saturday-Sunday 10-11 January (lessons 1-3) & 14-15 February (lessons 4-6) @ 10 AM - 6 PM]: Soaring Crane Qi Gong (SCQG) is a healing form of qi gong, easy to learn, fun to practice, focusing on balancing the whole body physically & energetically. It's slow rhythmic motions are practiced by >20 million people in China. While qualified teachers of this style are common in China, they are rare in the US. Learn this powerful form of healing from one of the area's most respected teachers, Ralph Dehner. Learn the six 5-minute lessons in 2 weekend workshops & enjoy practicing for a lifetime. SCQG cures diseases & improves health, develops wisdom & the brain's powers, raises intelligence & cultivates innate abilities, is an efficient tool in the transformative process, & can improve society by improving its people one at a time. Ralph began studying SCQG in 1990 with Master Jiwu Wang & granted permission to teach in 1997. Ralph stated that "This has been the cornerstone of my daily practice since 1990 & has been life changing." $200 for the 2-weekend workshops. Register by check or money order made to Ralph Dehner & sent to Qi Gong Workshop, c/o Ralph Dehner, 5927 Embassy Drive, Fairfield, OH 45014. At the Oxford Community Arts Center, 10 South College Avenue, Oxford, OH 45056. More info @ mightyvine@juno.com <mailto:mightyvine@juno.com> .
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Holiday Gift Ideas
Stocking Stuffer for the Mature Woman: A miniature hand fan for those times when menopausal women’s “inner child is playing with matches.” The inventor is from Northern Kentucky. The fans are made of recyclable materials & lead-free paint. Two sizes for $9 & $10. More info @ www.thebittybreeze.com <http://www.thebittybreeze.com./> . <http://www.thebittybreeze.com./>
Women Artists Datebook, 2009: This is the 16th edition of this beautiful datebook. It is spiral-bound, 5"x7" & available from Syracuse Cultural Workers, an org promoting peace & social change. "Art & poetry [that] inspires us to overcome fear & self-doubt, to use our minds & hearts to direct our creative energies in the year ahead." The datebook includes a black & white image showing the strength of women thru the generations by Cincinnati photographer Connie Springer. $14.95 for one; price decreases with larger orders. More info or order @ 800.949.5139 & www.SyracuseCulturalWorkers.com <http://www.syracuseculturalworkers.com./> . <http://www.syracuseculturalworkers.com./>
The Natural Mandala Fine Art Print: A museum quality, archival print of the 6-foot square mandala rendered totally in organic material. This unique image speaks deeply to the essence of our divine spirit nature. As a gift, this image means someone cares deeply for your emotional & spiritual well-being by encouraging a meditative practice. Created by Rex Oxley. 6 sizes, beginning at $150. More info, ordering & 20% discounts until 1 Jan @ 513.367.1456, rexoxley@msn.com <mailto:rexoxley@msn.com> & www.naturalmandala.com <http://www.naturalmandala.com/> . Contact Rex for 20% discount thru 1 Jan.
Lightboxes by Matthew Shelton [thru 1 February]: Painstakingly handcrafted lightboxes, illuminating intricate pin-hole patterns & colored light gels, to place the viewer in a meditative state where they might find a moment of peace & renewed sense of connection with themselves & their surroundings. Free. At NVISION, 4577 Hamilton Avenue, Cincinnati, OH 45223. More info @ 513.542.4577, contact@nvisionshop.com <mailto:contact@nvisionshop.com> & www.nvisionshop.com <http://www.nvisionshop.com> .
Give Homes to Cats & Dogs: President-Elect Obama described his wish to give his daughters pets from the local shelter. Cincinnati has outstanding shelters & pounds overflowing with kittens & puppies, mature cats & dogs that would love nothing better than to give you unconditional love in exchange for a home. Save The Animals Shelter is one good shelter (513.561.STAF & www.staf.org <http://www.staf.org/> ). The O’Bryonville Animal Rescue has cats & kittens for adoption plus low cost spay/neuter clinic (see next item below). Find others at Yahoo Yellow Pages under "Animal Shelters."
Fresh High Quality North Carolina Fraser Fir Christmas Trees [thru Sunday 14 December]: Trees are 5-9 feet tall & cost $40-90. Delivery available within a limited area. Also wreaths, pine roping, poinsettias, cut greens, fire wood & handmade holiday arrangements. Proceeds support community programs of the Civic Garden Center. Noon-7PM (Mon-Fri) & 11AM-4PM (Sat-Sun). At the Civic Garden Center, Oak Street & Reading Road, Avondale, Cincinnati, OH. More info @ 513.221.0981 & www.civicgardencenter.org <http://www.civicgardencenter.org.> . <http://www.civicgardencenter.org.>
Living Words Pottery: Hand formed stoneware for the home & for gift-giving, with an eternal difference. Each piece has been carefully crafted & bears God's living words. Four colors. Safe for microwave, dishwasher & oven. 38 forms; one-third of them are priced under $20. More info, colors & directions @ 513.542.2442 & www.LivingWordsPottery.com <http://www.livingwordspottery.com/> .
Little Town of Spirals - a Celtic Children’s Book: Cynthia Matyi, a Cincinnati artist, musician & author, has released her 1st book, filled with whimsical & colorful spiraling illustrations & a lyrical story. “The inspiration for Little Town of Spirals came through my travels in Ireland. I was showing a young student how to draw spirals, & together we created the start of a magical town where spirals rose from chimneys, blossomed in flowers, & brought fun to so many places." This is a book for all ages, a keepsake book with its fine art illustrations, poetic nature of the story, & colorful hand-stitched binding. A unique & special gift, not found in stores. Order now to receive your copies before the holidays. From Celtic Designs & Music @ 513.871.4527 & http://matyiart.com <http://matyiart.com/> .
One-of-a-Kind Stocking Stuffer for Pregnant Women: "Meditations for Expectant Mothers & the Life Within" CD. An empowering exploration of your body's ability to bring new life into the world. Fanchon Shur's stirring narration with Bonia Shur's music reassures you for a peaceful pregnancy & fearless childbirth. More info & to buy @ www.birthmeditation.com <http://www.birthmeditation.com> .
Ten Thousand Villages: The store sells quality, hand-crafted products from diverse cultures around the world, conducting business with a compassionate mission to provide vital, fair income to artisans; to one day see all artisans in developing countries earn a fair wage, be treated with dignity & respect, & be able to live a life of quality. As you consider the gifts you'll buy this holiday season, consider those with meaning that positively impact thousands of people around the world. Not only will you receive a beautiful handmade product, you will be investing in the life of another person. Just three gift examples:
<> Snowman Ornament in a Pomegranate Shell (Peru) - a trio of hand-formed, painted snowmen inside a round ornament created from a painted dried pomegranate shell ($8).
<> Recycled Rolled Newspaper Nativity (Philippines) - handmade by women's artisan group that transforms old newspapers into this religious characters by rolling the paper into tubes, with hand-carved faces ($94).
<> Movable Bicycle Chain Menorah (India) - since the cost of metal has skyrocketed, artisans of Noah's Ark International have learned to recycle unlikely materials like bicycle chains to fashion this unique menorah ($24).
At 2011 Madison Road, O’Bryonville, Cincinnati, OH 45208. More info @ 513.871.5840 tenthousandvillagesofcincinnati@fuse.net & http://cincinnati.tenthousandvillages.com.
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Ongoing Tri-State Treasures
A Very Merry Unauthorized Children's Scientology Pageant [thru Sunday 28 December]: A cast of children tell the story of L Ron Hubbard & the Church of Scientology in this indie rock musical by Kyle Jarrow. Songs cover everything from engrams to Dianetics, set in the style of a traditional Christmas pageant. Opening night party is Saturday 29 November @ 8 PM. Tickets are only $12, thanks to the generosity of the Carol Ann & Ralph V. Haile Jr./US Bank Foundation. At Know Theatre of Cincinnati, 1120 Jackson Street, Cincinnati, OH 45202. More info & tix @ 513.300.5669 & www.knowtheatre.com <http://www.knowtheatre.com> .
Citizens of the World - Photography [thru opening Saturday 3 January]: Take a break from the work week or holiday shopping to celebrate the 1st show of Lyn Marsteller’s vivid photography. Lyn’s artistic & humanistic eye has captured surprising slices of daily life in 14 images from countries that include Cambodia, China, Croatia & Zambia. Awakenings Coffee & Wine owner, Pierre Wevers will be pouring a selection of remarkable wines at very special prices that evening. At Awakenings Coffee & Wine, 2734 Erie Avenue, Cincinnati, OH 45208. More info @ 513.871.8131 & lynmarsteller@cinci.rr.com.
Coat Drive [thru Saturday 3 January]: Help keep our community warm this season. Donate 2 or more new or gently used coats & receive your choice of either a Chiropractic or Personalized Nutritional Examination ($150 value) in return for your generous donation. All donations accepted. At Gateways to Healing, Network Chiropractic, 3239 Jefferson Avenue, Clifton, Cincinnati, OH 45220. More info @ 513.321.3317 & www.GatewaysToHealing.com <http://www.gatewaystohealing.com/> .
Redtree Art Gallery Opening [thru Saturday 3 January]: Mixed Up: all mixed media show. Wine & cheese reception with live music. At Redtree Art Gallery & Coffee Shop, 4409 Brazee Street, Oakley, Cincinnati, OH 45209. More info @ 513.321.8733 & www.redtreegallery.net <http://www.redtreegallery.net> .
Going Greene: The Delta Queen & Greene Line Steamer Exhibit [thru January 4, 2009]: The collection of the Inland Rivers Library will be featured in this exhibit. Photographs & memorabilia from the Delta Queen & other steamboats from the Greene Line will be on display. At Cincinnati Room, 3rd Floor Bridge, Main Library, 800 Vine Street, Cincinnati, OH 45202. More info @ 513.369.6959, Emily.Mueller@CincinnatiLibrary.org <mailto:Emily.Mueller@CincinnatiLibrary.org> & www.cincinnatilibrary.org <http://www.cincinnatilibrary.org> .
Manifest Presents Two New Art Exhibits [thru Friday 9 January]: Like photography, printmaking is a genre of creative work that is underscored by its processes. National Exhibit of Contemporary Printmaking presents contemporary printmaking submitted by 13 artists that explores the range of methods & results currently being achieved within the bounds of such processes. Wild Kingdom is a solo exhibit of works by Jason Urban. The artist writes “My research has become an exploration of illusions” working across many disciplines anchored in printmaking, but pushed to the limits of installation. Works include etching & silkscreen processes combined with painting (www.jasonurban.com <http://www.jasonurban.com/> ). Refreshments will be served. At Manifest Creative Research Gallery & Drawing Center, 2727 Woodburn Avenue, Cincinnati, OH 45206. More info @ 513-861-3638, jason@manifestgallery.org <mailto:jason@manifestgallery.org> & www.manifestgallery.org <http://www.manifestgallery.org> .
St Mary's Cathedral Basilica Concert Series [Sundays thru 15 March @ 3 PM]: Enjoy beautiful music in an amazing space. St Mary's Cathedral Basilica presents the 33rd Series of concert music. Most concerts are free. At St Mary's Cathedral Basilica of the Assumption, Madison Avenue @ 12th Street, Covington, KY 41011. More info @ 859.431.2060, cathedralconcertseries@fuse.net & www.covcathedral.com/frame1.htm <http://www.covcathedral.com/frame1.htm> .
Pure Movement Classes [Mondays @ 6:30 PM & Wednesdays @ 9:30 AM]: A holistic approach to healing, fitness & creative expression to center, strengthen, stretch & energize the body & mind. Personalized attention to body needs for everyone. $20 per class; $48 for a series of 4 consecutive classes. First class free. Taught by Fanchon Shur. At Growth in Motion, Inc., 4019 Red Bud Avenue, Cincinnati, OH 45229. More info @ 513.221.3222, fanchon@growthinmotion.org & www.growthinmotion.org. <http://www.growthinmotion.org./>
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- Fabulous Film Festival [Friday 3 May @ 8 PM]: The first & best fabulous film festival in the city of Cincinnati will present live-action, documentary, & short films. Blah, blah, blah. Presented by Flicks R Us. Tickets are $8. At The Theatre, 111 Main Street, Cincinnati, OH 45200. More info @ 513.111.2222, info@filmfestival.com <mailto:info@filmfestival.com> , & www.filmfestival.com <http://www.filmfestival.com> .
The Lloyd House Salon (usually about 12 people) Meets on WEDNESDAYS at 5:45, EVERY Wednesday, 52 WEEKS/YEAR come hell or high water, as my mother used to say.We of the Lloyd House Salon gather in a spirit of respect, sympathy and compassion for one another in order to exchange ideas for our mutual pleasure and enlightenment. :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::Our Salon blog is a promising interactive site: http:lloydhouse.blogspot.com Also, we have an Interactive Yahoo Salon group, http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LloydHouseSalon ...........For Pot Luck procedures including food suggestions, mission and history visit http://home.fuse.net/ellenbierhorst/Potluck.html . You are invited also to visit the Lloyd House website: http://www.lloydhouse.com > To unsubscribe from the Lloyd House Potluck Salon list, send a REPLY message to me and in the SUBJECT line type in "unsub potluck #". In the place of # > type in the numeral that follows the subject line of my Weekly email. It > will be 1,2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 or 9. This tells me which sub-list your name is on so I can delete it. Thanks! ellen bierhorst
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